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[–] breen@lemmy.ca 201 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Baby, you haven't been a democracy for a while

[–] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (15 children)

Really? Seems like we had a peaceful transition of power just this year.

[–] PurpleSkull@lemm.ee 82 points 1 day ago (10 children)

We peacefully transitioned into a technocracy with a wanna-be dictator idiot at the helm.

As an exercise for anyone reading this who doesn't already know: How did Hitler got into a position of power? Look that up, don't use AI, actually check up on that yourself.

[–] chaogomu@lemmy.world 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Technically the Nazis lost that election, but the Conservatives who won turned around and handed power to Hitler, all to prevent the Left from gaining power.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 69 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Alien school: For todays class we will begin Earth history, please open your text book titled "Earth: All to Prevent the Left From Gaining Power." This book covers the vast majority of Earth history.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 11 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Unironically though, you can see the same pattern going all the way back to Rome.[Michal Parenti's The Assassination of Julius Caesar]

Something about the history of all hitherto existing society being the history of class struggles.

[–] jlh@lemmy.jlh.name 19 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Just a dictionary thing, Technocracy != tech bro president:

Government by technical specialists.

A system of governance where people who are skilled or proficient govern in their respective areas of expertise. A type of meritocracy based on people's ability and knowledge in a given area.

When you call someone a technocrat, it means they're more interested in research and quality than political debate

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[–] Eheran@lemmy.world 40 points 1 day ago (15 children)

I would assume most monarchies transitioned just as peaceful. What does that prove?

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[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 30 points 19 hours ago (7 children)

Optical illusion. Plutocrats sharing power among themselves is not democracy, friend.

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[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

The only party willing to accept defeat and not cry foul until their cult riots lost. It will never happen the other way around are you'd have be to a deeply vastly empty head to not know that.

[–] nondescripthandle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That makes one in a row now.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago

Degree of democracy has more to do with the size of the ruling coalition relative to the size of the pool of the interchangeables. When power is shared within a large ruling coalition, there tends to be a louder and more influential voice by the interchangeables, leading to more democracy and better living conditions for everyone, including those in the losing coalition. Autocracies on the ruling spectrum tend to have tiny ruling coalitions.

Source: my memory of reading The Dictator's Handbook by Bueno de Mesquita and Smith. Highly recommended reading.

If the ruling coalition of the US is much smaller than it appears to be, then yeah, it's at risk of losing its foothold as a democracy.

[–] orbituary@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 day ago

That's not the only quality of a democracy.

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[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 116 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

And a few days after that, PragerU releases a video titled "Why democracies will fail eventually", which tells its viewers that democracy creates "moral decadence", and now a "strong leader" is needed to fix the issue, who might have told some noble lies like a parent tells their kid the stork brings the children when they're not ready for reality. And the video ends with a "Roman salute" over "God Bless America".

[–] DancingBear@midwest.social 36 points 15 hours ago (13 children)

People tell their kids the stork brings babies because the parent is the one not ready to have the conversation.

The parent is avoiding their own humiliation. Telling kids how babies are made is not embarassing for kids. Kids have no reason to feel shame or judgement about these kinds of things….

Just pointing this out to show that the metaphor here is deeply flawed.

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[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 15 hours ago

I hate that I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if this really happened

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 94 points 17 hours ago (7 children)

Oh, but were not a democracy, were a constitutional republic hardy har har har har

  • my republican friends.
[–] RustyShackleford@programming.dev 35 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

we're a constitutional federal republic, with democratically elected representatives, but a plutocracy, in practice

  • me, a political science pedant of highest/worst order
[–] Astra@lemmy.ml 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

As a political science pedant, can you explain to me the difference between a democracy and a constitutional republic? I tried to Google "constitutional republic" but I just got a Wikipedia page that said they were the same thing.

Which I guess would fit, since republicans are absolute dumbfucks, but if there's actually some nuance there, I'm curious to know.

Thanks!

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[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 20 points 6 hours ago

constitutional republic

So we're going to follow the constitution?

ohh

It's like talking to MAGA about Christianity So you're going to follow the bible?

ohh

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[–] liverbe@lemmy.world 78 points 1 day ago

"You’ve only been a democracy for only 50 years. Not unless you don't count black people... you are nearly as mature democracy as Botswana." - Lukas Matsson (Swedish guy) on Succession

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 45 points 1 day ago

Damn. When Sweden (or any Nordic country) says it, it really hits hard.

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

"Could lose"? We are long past this point. When you can chose between two parties and they try to manipulate the election as hard as they can, then that's a zombie democracy at best. And now? The president stands above the law. He can fire people illegally. He can disable law enforcement. Democracy in the US is gone. Hopefully only temporarily. Now it's up to people to act, take their rogue government down and repair what can be repaired.

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 11 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

To be fair they did explicitly say that this report includes no data from 2025.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 41 points 1 day ago

America is lost. Do not let Elon near your country.

[–] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 10 hours ago

The US is one of the most watered down democracies, even for a liberal democracy (which is severely watered down). Its a system where the needs of the many are filtered through the needs of the few. We dont need to "fix" liberal democracy, we need workers democracy (syndicalism).

[–] Crikeste@lemm.ee 31 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We should have never had the status given we still use slaves.

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 17 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Having a for-profit prison system was a bad choice.

Who could have seen it coming ?

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Trump's approval rating us TOO DAMN HIGH!

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

Just publish an addendum and yank it. The great experiment failed. We’re cooked, chat.

[–] samus12345@lemm.ee 19 points 1 day ago

Could? Do it now.

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 19 points 4 hours ago

"Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…"

Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947

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