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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 78 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Old White Guy: "We're doing more capitalism. You will live in the pod and eat the bugs and own nothing and like it. Nothing will fundamentally change."

Young Arab Guy: "We're going to try to make cost of living go down at the expense of private profits and turn NYC into a place where you don't need to be a millionaire to live well."

I mean, this isn't an issue of being "Twice as Good". It's an issue of being diametrically opposed to the ruling class.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 53 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Mamdani isn't Arab; he's Indian. A quarter of the world would be offended by the implication these two groups are the same.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 11 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Wouldn't be offended necessarily. He's Muslim and South Asian (parents are Gujurati and Punjabi) so it's easy to think that. We need to offer grace to people outside of our ingroup. They're going to know less and that's ok. Just like I don't know if O'Keefe is Irish, Scottish or Potato.

[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's not an Arab.

Conflating being a Muslim with being Arabian is a good habit to break.

[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Absolutely agree. Especially since the majority of the world's Muslims (60%) live in the Asia-Pacific region.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

The biggest Muslim country in the World is Indonesia.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I thought he was from Uganda lol I wouldn't have called him arab or indian

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 11 points 3 days ago (1 children)

He's Ugandan-born but both his parents are Indian and he identifies as Indian-American.

[–] DogWater@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Ah okay thanks

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)
[–] qarbone@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

You shouldn't be allowed to do things if you're this fuckin stupid. What does this even mean? How the fuck does Soviet Russia impact your decision to buy groceries?

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hear you, but I think state-run liquor stores are just a holdover from Prohibition mentality, not to make sure booze is affordable for the poor.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The point is that the world doesn’t end when the government sells stuff.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Oh I agree, and I love Mamdani's ideas. I just think state-run liquor stores aren't a great parallel because they come with issues food stores don't.

[–] kunaltyagi@programming.dev 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm from the US so I don't understand what issues might be there if govt operates food stores?

I think that were 2 statements: "state run liquor stores come with issues" - "food stores don't have those issues, therefore bad parallel"

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

It's the other way around - government run liquor stores started after Prohibition to make sure liquor laws keeping booze away from minors were enforced properly. Food stores don't have that issue. And we're talking about NYC.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago

And the Department of Defense is the country's largest food provisioner/retailer, after all.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 41 points 3 days ago

Kindly? No.

They can go fuck themselves with a spiked mace and pour hot sauce over the wounds it creates.

The people freaking out over this, but not over the literal forming of a dictatorship are absolute scum.

[–] ItemWrongStory@midwest.social 30 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just don't understand how to shake people out of apathy. By scores of metrics, America is doing terribly compared to other Western democracies, and the proof is ready and evident. But Americans just don't care, "who is kamala harris" was trending on google on election day.

Then add all that on top of disinformed Americans that will fight to keep their chains.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you want to see how to shake people out of apathy, look no further than the subject of this post. The Mamdani campaign might not be perfect, but it’s exactly the kind of direction we can head if we work together. People were most certainly shaken out of apathy to deliver this important win.

[–] ItemWrongStory@midwest.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't know, I thought the same thing about Bernie in 2020 but everyone went Biden instead. I hope this goes well and is replicated across the nation, but then I remember that "do good for everyone" isn't a common goal.

[–] buttnugget@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

That’s just an election though. I’m talking about building a movement. This is how it happens. Bernie was obviously the correct choice in terms of the two seconds it takes to vote, just like Biden and Harris were in the generals following, but the movement is built on the excitement of breaking out of the apathy of normal corporate politics.

I’m just saying take a look at what happens when someone who actually represents the interests of the people puts together a real movement based campaign. It breaks apathy.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

the us military has government run grocery stores btw and the world hasnt ended

[–] plyth@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

Yet. There are no government run grocery stores outside the army so that poor people have to join the army. Then they cannot quit and you can fight wars that end the world.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago

The fear is these city run grocery stores may prove to be useful and popular and people elsewhere would start demanding them. And we can’t have the peasants giving money to the government rather than the owner of Krogers.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What's the grocery store idea? Open them in food deserts?

[–] seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz 18 points 3 days ago

Yes, starting with a pilot program that puts one store in each borough and growing from there.

[–] Echolynx@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 days ago

Exactly. The big chains don't want to come there, this is providing stimulus for the mom and pop stores that would.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Speaking of Trump, you'd think Fox News would go back to saying the word "uncertainty" every 13 seconds like they did during the whole Obama administration. But apparently not.

[–] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world -2 points 3 days ago

Uhh, Eric Adams was also black. Just sayin'.

Maybe the deciding factor is class rather than race?

Nah, couldn't be it. It's not as if they would stand to benefit from us poors' constant infighting.