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[–] aberrate_junior_beatnik@midwest.social 164 points 2 days ago (32 children)

The most important part of this is the primaries. If we fill these seats with a bunch of Chuck Schumers/Hakeem Jeffries it won't make a difference. If we fill them with Zohran Mamdanis, on the other hand...

[–] AbnormalHumanBeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.space 60 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yupp, don't let them tell you yet another "compromise" candidate, who "at least isn't the red elephant person" is gonna cut it. They have been losing elections, they spark no enthusiasm, they are not the "safe option".

That being said, do organise and network outside of party politics, too. Elections are an important part of everything, they to mould the status quo to some degree, and can heavily shift context of further political work - but getting beyond the structural shit that put Trump into power requires more than that. Joining (preferrably radical) unions, showing up to town halls and the likes, networking with neighbours and friends for mutual aid and emergency support, community defence organisations, civil rights orgs, etc. etc. Both informal and formal organisation is needed wherever you can.

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[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Which is probably why the DNC didn’t let us have a primary for the 2024 election. They knew their status quo candidate didn’t have any juice behind her but didn’t want to open the door to that criticism.

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[–] But_my_mom_says_im_cool@lemmy.world 83 points 2 days ago (20 children)

For all you Americans who like to complain about the democrats candidates, maybe join the party and vote on primaries. Maybe do something other than just wait around until they feed you the candidate they picked without your input. Maybe start changing up the party from within and at the entry level, by voting on primaries and volunteering for the progressive candidates that want to overthrow the party career politicians. Look at what New York did! If they had waited around and not cared about primaries, they would have gotten Cumo and complained. I hear a lot of complaining about the democrats on Lemmy, sometimes you guys blame them more than Republican. But if you don’t vote or register as a democrat then you don’t matter to them. Make yourselves heard before the actual elections

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 23 points 2 days ago (9 children)

You don’t even have to join the Democratic Party to vote in their primaries.

That being said, they will absolutely move mountains to block anyone remotely socialist from gaining power. The only reason Mamdani won the primary is because NYC has ranked choice voting.

The Dems are not going to save us because their leadership is profiting from this too much. Organized resistance is the only hope we have.

[–] AliasAKA@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Actually, Mamdani would’ve won on first past the post as well (he has 43.5% of voters choosing him as first choice). He needs a 50% threshold to advance, which is where ranked choice will come in, but he would’ve won a first past the post anyways.

So even in a first past the post scheme, people should vote in dem primaries. I think we’re all on board with changing the dem party, and it starts in the primaries.

Go vote, or get oppressed. That’s basically the options and people need to understand that. Voting doesn’t guarantee you won’t be oppressed, but not voting guarantees you will.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Would those people have voted for him in a first past the post race? Or would they have been too afraid that someone worse than Cuomo would win, so they stick with him?

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This depends on the state and in most states you have to be a member of the party to vote in primaries

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[–] nandeEbisu@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Progressive Democrats are the 3rd party. That's why establishment Dems are trying to suppress them.

[–] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Correct. From the inside is the only way to change them. Actual 3rd party just splits the ticket and gives seats to the opposite party who are always worse than the most centrist D.

It's the same way the MAGA Rs shifted that party from within. The old guard neo-cons fought them as long as they could, and now they know if they bad-mouth them, they get primaried by insane people like MTG and Boebert.

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[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (3 children)

Learn from Zohran Mamdani’s win and VOTE IN THE PRIMARIES.

Sign up for mailers if you forget to vote. Sign up for mail-in ballots if you have an irregular schedule.

30/50 states have closed primaries, meaning you must be registered as a Democrat to vote in the Democratic primary. Check your state’s primary type here: https://ballotpedia.org/Primary_election_types_by_state

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[–] aramova@infosec.pub 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Remember folks, every vote counts. We did this to ourselves.

I've said it before elsewhere but it needs to be heard...

It's just wild to me continually seeing posts not understanding how this all works, and how it would play out. It's like the people who thought China paid the tariffs...

The house is almost tied. That's who passes bills, handles impeachments, some of the most powerful committees are, and who impeaches Presidents...

218 Republicans, 213 Democrats.

Let's see, take New York for example.

26 representatives total, 19 Democrat and 7 Republican.

5 of those were within 2 points last time their seat was up.

People who think that New York is blue, their vote doesn't matter, skips the votes for the House and Senate and end up losing a Blue house seat but later complain that nothing changes are literally the fucking problem.

Every. Fucking. State. Is. Like. This.

Apathetic morons who don't realize that the president is only held accountable by the other branch of government then wave their hands around when they did jack shit to help put people in place to, are the fucking problem.

District 3 of California was lost by 24,000 votes. District 22 was lost by 3,000.

Those two seats in the house, along with the close ones in New York, Jersey, Michigan, Illinois, Washington, hell every state... Are what makes the House of Representatives or breaks it.

So, if you think that your vote for president doesn't matter, so you skip voting and let these other seats slip, yes, you're a fucking moron who can't grasp basic concepts of government that are taught in 4th grade.

And don't get me started on the State House/Senates, how they define voting laws and voting zones and engage in gerrymandering.

Every fucking vote counts.

And until the country realizes it, and starts acting on it, we'll keep getting the shit we deserve.

House needs a simple majority, and two thirds of the Senate.

Democrats would need ~18 seats.

First, that won't happen in 2026.

Even the best cases make it hard to win enough by 2028. Which is why impeachment is just not something we can hold out for.

Gerrymandering is part of why this is a problem, which is done at the local level, and again why every vote counts.

How could it play out? Assuming some absurdly weird upside down world just opposite of what we're living in, this is the only path just looking at the numbers...

Again, Democrats would need to gain 18 net seats. Seats Potentially in Play (Republican Incumbents): This requires looking at seats up in upcoming cycles.

  • Class 1 Seats (Up in 2026):
    • Highly Competitive Targets: These would be the first priority. States where Democrats have won statewide recently or that lean only slightly Republican. Examples based on recent political history might include:
      • North Carolina (Budd-R)
      • Alaska (Sullivan-R) - Unique dynamics with ranked-choice voting.
    • Stretch Targets: States that are more Republican but could potentially flip under exceptionally favorable conditions (like the hypothetical turnout).
      • Iowa (Ernst-R)
      • Montana (Daines-R) - Depends heavily on candidate matchups.
      • Kentucky (McConnell-R's seat - potential retirement changes dynamics)
      • Kansas (Marshall-R)
      • South Carolina (Graham-R)
    • Very Difficult Targets: Solidly Republican states requiring overwhelming Democratic turnout and significant shifts among other voters.
      • Texas (Cornyn-R)
      • Mississippi (Wicker-R)
      • Alabama (Tuberville-R)
      • West Virginia (Capito-R)
      • Oklahoma (Mullin-R - Special election winner)
      • Wyoming (Lummis-R)
      • Idaho (Risch-R)
      • Arkansas (Cotton-R)
      • Nebraska (Ricketts-R)
      • South Dakota (Rounds-R)
      • Louisiana (Cassidy-R) - Jungle primary system.
  • Class 2 Seats (Up in 2028): (Looking further ahead)
    • Highly Competitive Targets:
      • Maine (Collins-R) - Often competitive, depends on matchup.
      • Georgia (Perdue/Ossoff dynamic showed competitiveness, depends who holds it after '26 potentially) - Assuming GOP holds a seat here.
    • Stretch Targets:
      • Michigan (Peters-D currently, but listing potential GOP flips back if one happened hypothetically before 2028) - Generally leans D, but could be contested.
      • New Hampshire (Shaheen-D currently) - Generally leans D, but listing potential GOP flips back.
    • Very Difficult Targets: (Many solidly Republican states)
      • Tennessee (Hagerty-R)
      • Alaska (Murkowski-R historically, depends on dynamics)
      • North Carolina (Tillis-R)
      • Iowa (Grassley-R seat potentially)
      • Texas (Cruz-R)
      • Kentucky (Paul-R)
      • And many others similar to the 2026 list (SC, AL, MS, WY, ID, NE, SD, KS, WV, OK).

It's going to take an absolutely historic level of pain to both drive enough people to vote MAGA out to make this change though.

The amount that's being excused, sanewashed, and just drowned out with other absurdities...

We're on all on this shit ride until some new wildcard comes into play.

No impeachment, no Supreme Court, no guardrail is going to change that.

Something new and unaccounted for is the only feasible catalyst.

[–] Kickforce@lemmy.wtf 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I'm not American and I wish you guys the very best, but my expectations for the 2026 elections is on par with the elections in Russia. Every non republican candidate may end up in jail or out of a window.

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.today 10 points 2 days ago

Totally get all of that, but U cant help but look at McConnell's seat and remember how Schumer and co rejected the exciting young candidate and instead forced a PRO-TRUMP "democrat" to challenge him.

It's simple: if you think you can challenge a red conservative with a blue conservative, the red conservative will win every time. Blue conservatives are just carpetbaggers to the voters.

The challenger to conservatism is progressivism. If you don't actually provide a choice you WILL lose.

[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

I am utterly convinced that it won't matter, but damnit we still have to fucking try.

[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

After what I've seen the last 10 years I have absolutely zero faith that Americans can make this happen. I'd actually put money on them continuing to empower the traitorous Republican party and continue our descent into authoritarianism.

But I'll still show up and vote against them, like I always do.

[–] opavader@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

before that we also need to make sure superpac backed trash don’t get past the primaries.

trump got elected twice because dnc has become infested by shills like pelosi and schumer who keep sabotaging progressives like bernie and aoc.

pelosi will happily support ice and any anti-working class initiative as long she gets her cut. schumer is an israeli agent who would support brining back slavery if it allows idf to murder more children.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

also DNC wouldnt even investigate the eleciton rigging of the machines, 2 times it happened until it was too late, they are totally complicit. yes we know they are going to get called out as rigging the electiona s well.

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[–] BubbaGumpsBackLumps@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Ah yes, impeach the already twice impeached, 34 time convicted felon

These cunts don't care about law so stop taking the high road, when they go low, kick them in the fucking teeth

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[–] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 22 points 1 day ago

The first step is to crucify any Democrat that isn't willing to actually fight.

[–] GuyFawkes@midwest.social 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

By my math, Dems need a clean sweep to get to 65 (+2 independents) for a total of 67. If even a single Republican up for reelection next year gets it we’ll fall short as usual. So nope, no convicting the traitor in the White House after the next election either.

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[–] match@pawb.social 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

vote like it in checks notes a year and a half.. we need to be acting now and not waiting for elections.

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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (4 children)

It's time to take our fuckin country back

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[–] SuperCub@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Remember to vote in new blood that's not afraid to impeach a fascist. Refer to this list for the Dems you need to vote out: Fascist-Enabler Democrats Vote Against Impeachment

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[–] Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I honestly quite afraid they are gonna rig the fuck outta the mid-terms somehow. I realize I have little to no evidence to support that, but doesn't mean it couldn't still happen under this regime.

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[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Not only that, demand reinforced impartial safeguards against potential electoral rigging.

The wolf must not guard the hen house, and there's already a lot of weird stuff regarding the last election from said wolf.

[–] cogitase@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 1 day ago

Turn-out for primaries is minuscule. If you’re in a deep red state that has fully open primaries, you can request a republican primary ballot. I guarantee if you fully look into every primary candidate there will be a reasonable person who is at least open to impeaching or otherwise opposing Trump.

If it’s a partially-open primary state you will have to switch to independent to vote strategically in primaries.

If you’re in a deep-red state with closed primaries, it’s worth considering switching affiliations just so you can have some say in who represents you.

I know it’s like sifting through shit to find an edible kernel of corn, but it’s what has to be done to stop this in deep-red states.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"33 Senate Seats are on the ballot"

LMFAO.

Let me introduce you to Staggered Elections

Only Maine's seat is even winnable, the other ones up for relection in 2026 are all safe Blue or Safe Red states

Currently its 53-47. Highly doubt that Dems can win 3 in Red States. (Unless we get a White Boi Hillbilly Revolution?)

The House cannot block juidicial nominations.

Judicial nominations are not subject to Filibuster.

So...

Not to be a pessimist, but...

Looks like an uphill battle...

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Ask yourselves: Which of the red seats can Dems flip in 2026? (Grey ones are not up for election, only one seat is up for election per state due to staggered elections)

Despite this, you should still go vote! But don't get too excited. Its not safe until fascists are out of executive power.

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dont forget, if dems dont vote its a guarantee that rupublicans will win. Vote early and dont forget to vote on your local elections too. Even a judge can make all the difference

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[–] rational_lib@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It's not enough to just elect Democrats. Ok technically Democrats would have 67 votes in the Senate if they flipped every single Republican seat, which would be just enough to convict. But that's not happening.

Instead, there needs to be a movement by anti Trump forces from across the spectrum to primary Republicans and replace them with anti Trump candidates. That effort needs to start now.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago (7 children)

We're going to gain a lot of seats, just because we already did a 180 from the Victory Fund nonsense that cost us those seats to begin with:

https://democrats.org/news/dnc-and-asdc-announces-organize-everywhere-win-anywhere-strategy-largest-ever-monthly-dnc-investment-into-democratic-state-and-territory-parties/

Going from bankrupting those state parties to the biggest funding push ever will allow those red/purple districts to fight back and flip seats.

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[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 9 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Articles of impeachment were just in front of the house

DEMOCRATS voted them down.

What the fuck is the point of voting?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It depends on if you really want to know.

TL;DR: because voting is a right and a duty

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[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Gonna have to vote out the shit Democrats and vote in progressives

Vote blue no matter who is out-- primary goddamned everybody is in

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[–] Daft_ish@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Why wait? The amount of people and goodwill to do this would have the same effect if the same people started striking today.

Strike. Today.

[–] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Many people would be homeless off of one missed paycheck.

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[–] Owlboi@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (5 children)

its hilarious that people still think "going through the proper channels" is going to work. you're playing a game with someone who has cheats activated. playing by the rules aint gonna work if the guy you're playing against rewrites the rules whenever he feels like.

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Remember these cowards names when it’s time for them to beg for our votes.

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