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Psychiatric hospitals are also allowed to lie to you. You can go in voluntarily, and be upgraded to “involuntary” with no recourse.
Mental health techs will lie - cause problems? Guess what, your notes now say that you are “paranoid” and “hear voices.” You’re “paranoid” because a tech beat the shit out of you two hours ago - you don’t hear voices, but you are “crazy” so obviously lying.
Check what rights institutionalized people have in your state. I can tell you where I live, there are none.
Like red flag laws, but for the other side.
Red Flag laws are used to remove guns from Trans, Latino, and Black people in red states too. It's not the solution to gun violence that people think it is. It was a good idea, but it ends up falling to paradox of the false positive and even being weaponized against minorities more often than not. It violates due process as well.
More comprehensive care for people with severe mental health issues and arresting and jailing domestic violence offenders their first time is more effective. Unfortunately, we just defunded public mental health, so...
The other side?
Red flag laws were geared more towards conservatives, this TDS bill would be geared more towards liberals.
How are laws stating "If you've beaten your spouse, you cannot own guns" geared towards conservatives? Or, is that a slip of some sort?
I don't remember that part of it.
So, the only possible sane position is to support everything Trump does?
No. You don't have to agree with everything Trump. This bill won't pass anyway.
Assuming it passed, that's what the bill said. Any disagreement with Trump is a clear sign of a mental disorder.
No, it does not say any disagreement with Trump. That alone would not qualify.
Don't worry though, with walz as gov, it won't pass.
No, it does not say any disagreement with Trump
It literally does. That's how it defines "Trump Derangement Syndrome".
But yes, Walz will veto it, thankfully.
Link says document not found.
This is for Minnesota, why is that not in the headline or post? I don't think Minnesota will pass this
it's also one of a billion batshit bills that every Nazi sycophant is going to shit out over the next 4-90 years.
that said, it's kinda good to get out in front and see these, we should be tracking names
I agree, I'm not saying it shouldn't be posted but the text of the post reads like this was introduced to the house of Representatives in congress not just in the MN house.
We don't need to be confusing people into thinking it's already hopeless, they're trying this in Minnesota and it will fail.
The fact they're trying is important to recognize but we also have to point out that it is a single instance and people can go harass the singular state rep who introduced it instead of thinking it's in congress and there's no way to contact enough reps to block the bill.
Hope that clarifies my position a bit. Name and shame. Make it clear that this is in a state house. That is where the real evil is going to be commited (states right to what?) But let's make it so that the people in that state are able to be activated and called to action as opposed to me seeing this in Georgia and thinking "oh great I can't influence this decision if it's happening in Washington."
Maybe I read the article and see it's for Minnesota, and make the comment saying we should point out it's just in Minnesota. OR I just read the headline, read the comments freaking out without the context, and go tell my friends "hey congress is introducing a bill to make criticizing trump a mental illness" completely devaluing the actual harm being done by misrepresenting it.
No shade to OP, just trying to be pragmatic.
What's the bill number? Is there a link to the text for a full read?
It's a Minnesota bill and the link takes you to the full text.
Ah my bad, my client isn't great about showing stuff are links if no thumbnail renders.
This bill is horrifying.
Just like in Soviet Union under Stalin.
Not really, abuse of the mental asylums like this mostly happened after Stalin’s death. Under Stalin, you were simply thrown into the Gulag system.
It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.
I think it is also important to note that it appears many of these officers are not wearing Level IV plates daily, and plainclothes cops may not be wearing any vest at all.
It's also important to note that they're planning on introducing gun control for people considered to be mentally ill. They are going to declare every antifascist mentally ill, and use it to take their guns away.
Which is why I roll my eyes everyone those Dems mentions "Gun Control".
Armed Minorities are harder to oppress.
If you guys haven't started rioting by now then I lack any empathy for you with what comes next.
I don't know how to start a riot
This statement sums up modern Western society.
