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Bill presented that would make disliking Trump grounds for an involuntary mental health hold
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Psychiatric hospitals are also allowed to lie to you. You can go in voluntarily, and be upgraded to “involuntary” with no recourse.
Mental health techs will lie - cause problems? Guess what, your notes now say that you are “paranoid” and “hear voices.” You’re “paranoid” because a tech beat the shit out of you two hours ago - you don’t hear voices, but you are “crazy” so obviously lying.
Check what rights institutionalized people have in your state. I can tell you where I live, there are none.
Quite literally in my case.
PTSD from “psychiatric care” is pretty difficult to deal with (and understudied. fascinating how PTSD only garners you empathy and understanding if you’re a combat rep, despite the fact that most with PTSD do have it from sexual abuse and possibly inpatient experiences - suicide rates skyrocket after involuntary commitment, but why do any form of investigation into something that might hurt profits?)
If you’re afraid of wasps, you aren’t expected to go ask a wasp how to deal with it. If, however, you experience severe abuse at the hands of mental health professionals and you live in an area where mental health care = the police, getting any form of help is pretty difficult.
Especially when they consider your gender identity and sexuality as manifestations of mental illness/further evidence that they don’t need to look into the tech beating the shit out of you.
You’re speaking directly to me. I am a veteran with PTSD. It was from sexual assault and the accompanying involuntary mental health lock up after I went to the doctor to seek help with my sleep.
I was told I could not claim the sexual assault because I would have been kicked out for sleeping with someone that was married and for being gay (this was before they repealed don’t ask don’t tell)….. I would have been court martial and thrown out they said.
Lucky for me I’m an infantry marine with a combat tour so my PTSD gets assumed to be combat and I don’t have to explain much to anyone. But fuck, how am I supposed to go and talk this out with doctors that I don’t trust? I don’t trust the system at all. I was let down by low command (squad), middle command(battalion command), and high command (regimental command). I was then failed by the nurse (corpsman), PCP (battalion doctor), psych (some fuckface colonel), his nurse (another corpsman), and the facilities personnel (nurses, doctors, psychiatrists).
And to compound on all this, I was involuntarily locked up when I was 14(??) because my parents let me get so fucked up that I blacked out and they called cops saying they didn’t know what was wrong with me……. What was wrong was that I was 14 and handed booze and pills…… the fuck did they expect?!? Obviously both times I ended up getting released but that doesn’t remove the inhumanity of it all. The treatment as if you are “other” to them. Like a dog or some shit.
So I’ve had trauma from psych wards from adolescence and also my time in the marines.
Sorry for the rant. Just triggered so much inside me with your comment.
This reads like low-key Scientology propaganda.
Scientologists despise psychiatry. To like the point of extremism.
Nearly identical? One is a cult, and one is a legitimate science.
Psychiatrists help millions of people every day by providing antidepressants, ADHD medication, mood stabilizers, anti-psychotics, anxiolytics, etc.
We have countless peer reviewed studies with an amount of raw data that is borderline unfathomable, regarding the safety and efficacy of these medications. People's lives are made significantly better because of psychiatry. They often literally save people from suicide.
Either you've got a lot to learn about how science and medicine works, or you're being extremely disingenuous.
Oh ok... So you straight up just don't understand the scientific method. Yikes... I honestly don't know what to say other than that you should really try to learn more about the peer review process, how drugs and treatments are tested before becoming mainstream, etc.
Would love to see some evidence to back this claim up. I know you won't provide it because you cannot, because it's simply not true. And it's kind of concerning that someone would even believe this in the first place.
I don't really understand how that has anything to do with psychiatry and whether it works or not.
Do you want to know why we understand anything about how culture affects how our brains work? Science. Peer review. And yes, say it with me now: psychiatry.
SSRIs are some of the, if not the, most studied medications on the planet. They're not just improvising out there. You need to inform yourself about how all of this actually works before you try to make the kinds of claims and generalizations you are making.
Surely you understand that, statistically, your anecdote is meaningless, right?
That's simply not true. Ever hear of pharmacology? Ever hear of double-blind studies? You really have no idea what you're talking about. And that's fine, but you have to recognize it and stop saying such ridiculous shit with so much confidence.
Being dogmatic about science? I'm literally just trying to explain the very basics of how the scientific method works because obviously you do not understand it.
What power?! What world do you live in??
I'm so fucking sick of this demonization of science and scientists. This is same as the "scientists are greedy and just want grant money" bullshit. Just completely misrepresenting the entire industry/community and discrediting everything that they do (which, by the way, you seem to have no issue with reaping the benefits of on a daily basis)... It's bizarre to be honest.
And the shit you are saying is straight out of Scientology, so I'm wondering if I was actually correct in my initial comment. Who needs SSRIs when you can just do an audit and get rid of those pesky thetans for $100,000?