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[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 47 points 21 hours ago
[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 33 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

And was it worth it to start WW3? He's going to suggest using a nuke next, just watch

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 31 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The assessment found that at least some of Iran’s highly enriched uranium was moved out of multiple sites before the U.S. strikes and survived, according to the people, and it also found that Iran’s centrifuges are largely intact.

At the deeply buried Fordo uranium enrichment plant, the entrance collapsed and infrastructure was damaged, so that will take time to fix, but the underground infrastructure was not destroyed, according to one of the people. The person also said that previous assessments had warned of this outcome at Fordo.

The White House strongly pushed back on the assessment, calling it “flat-out wrong.”

. . . “The leaking of this alleged assessment is a clear attempt to demean President Trump

WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN AT WAR WITH OCEANIA

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 17 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Gee, I wonder why it might be important to have working OPSEC in the highest levels of your strategic decision making. Well, that ship has sailed, and probably cannot come back.

(Not that I'm in favor of bombing Iran's nuclear facilities, I'm just saying shit happens when you are incompetent. There is a deliberate confusion between saying "nuclear program" to mean nuclear activities like medicine which are perfectly normal and which lots of countries do, which is all Iran was doing with their uranium throughout all the middle of the 2010s, and nuclear activities trying to build a bomb. I don't know how much of what they're doing is the second thing, although it seems likely that it's nonzero, but I know that some is the first thing and Obama was able to talk them out of all of the second thing, and they agreed.)

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 6 points 19 hours ago

Obama was able to talk them out of all of the second thing, and they agreed.

Like so many other things, this could be a motivation for Trump to undo things, regardless of understanding any of it. It's why he ran for President the first time, out of spite.

[–] N0t_5ure@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

And now they're pissed off and look forward to using the bomb they develop.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 17 hours ago

It will not happen before khamenei dies. Hr is against the use of nukes

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

U.S. Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Dan Caine said that seven Spirit bombers were deployed to Iran, each with two crew members. He also confirmed that the attack package included U.S. submarines that launched 30 Tomahawk missiles at Iranian targets; he also noted the involvement of both fourth- and fifth-generation aircraft - including F/A-18s, F-22 Raptors, and F-35 Lightning IIs.

The exact cost of the mission remains unknown, but for context: each B-2 bomber is worth over $2 billion, an F-35 runs around $100 million, and the USS Carl Vinson — a Nimitz-class aircraft carrier — cost roughly $4.5 billion. Caine said that “more than 125 US aircraft participated in this mission”, so who knows how long the bill will be when it comes in. (source)

So worth it, brah.

[–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 7 points 20 hours ago

Better than applying the money to socialist programs back home, for sure. (the ones still around)

[–] 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Relative to the B2, 4.5B$ seems cheap for a whole nuclear powered aircraft carrier

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

It gets a big discount for not being invisible.

[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 20 hours ago

Most experts could have told the White House all this before it was done, these were widely reported in worldwide news a week before he did it

[–] Jozav@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

He has a problem: he can not finish the job as long as Iran and Israel stick to the ceasefire.

[–] Mrkawfee@lemmy.world 20 points 20 hours ago

Israel never sticks to ceasefires. They are addicted to war.

[–] evenglow@lemmy.world 4 points 20 hours ago

Not at all. Oil didn't go up. This distraction didn't work as much as he wanted.

The only person that thought bunker busters would destroy a mountain was Trump.

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

Trump is getting enough power in the US alone, that I am sure he thinks he can do what the wants globally without repercussions.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 6 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (1 children)

The effectiveness of any strike can most easily be measured by the effectiveness of the counterattack

[–] catty@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

But Iran couldn't counterattack before the strike. Soo.... ?

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago

The Iranian counterattack following the recent nuclear site strike was on par with their counterattack following Trump killing the Iranian General Qassem Soleimani in January of 2020.

Limited response from Iran because of the limited damage done to Iran

[–] xiwi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 10 hours ago

Any day now since the eighties.

Anyway, Iran probably should get a few nukes and get them fast.

[–] catty@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

"nuclear program"? Whatever happened to "nuclear weapons"? Rewriting the narrative already? Ah, we need gold to go back up everyone.

[–] ohwhatfollyisman@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

so it's now firnly back in thw biden era and trump can now unequivocally blame the status of their nuclear plans on his predecessor.

maybe this chump isn't as dumb as he seems.

[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

That doesn’t make sense. Walk me through this…

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Another miserable failure

[–] Bieren@lemmy.world 2 points 9 hours ago

Lies. Some drunk tv host got on tv and said it was obliterated. So this much be fake news.