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[–] hera@feddit.uk 47 points 1 week ago

Love seeing open source projects from companies that aren't specifically tech firms

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 46 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I saw the headline and was ready to rage about why they should just use signal instead. Then I read the article and honestly this is a fucking genius use of tech

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

I read it and don't understand. Why is this better than Signal? Or the 500 other secure file/messaging protocols?

Jabber seemed to work perfectly for Snowden...

[–] rosco385@lemmy.wtf 47 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Because analysing network traffic wouldn't allow an adversary to see what you're sending with Signal, but they could still tell you're sendig a secure message.

What the Guardian is doing is hiding that secure chat traffic inside the Guardian app, so packet sniffing would only show you're accessing news.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 week ago

I downloaded the guardian app and couldn't find the option.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org -1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

analysing network traffic wouldn't allow an adversary to see what you're sending with Signal

How are they analyzing network traffic with Signal? It's encrypted. And why does it matter if they know you're sending a message? Literally everyone using Signal is sending a message.

[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 23 points 1 week ago (17 children)

Using an encrypted messaging app could itself be a red flag, using a news app is normal behavior.

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[–] Natanael@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Timing of messages. They can't tell what you send, but can tell when

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[–] papertowels@mander.xyz 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

How are they analyzing network traffic with Signal? It's encrypted

Not my specialty, but signals end to end encryption is akin to sealing a letter. Nobody but the sender and the recipient can open that letter.

But you still gotta send it through the mail. That's the network traffic analysis that can be used.

Here's an example of why that could be bad.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

For one, ease of access. Say you’re trying to break a story, who are you going to message with signal? Because you’re going to need to get that contact info somehow right?

Snowden is permanently stranded in Russia. That’s not exactly a great example of an anonymous source.

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[–] MCasq_qsaCJ_234@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

Messaging protocols already resemble the frameworks that come out from time to time. And their effectiveness is due to the fact that they require a certain quota of users.

It's just a secure messaging app with a direct line to Guardian journalists. How to use 911 or special numbers when you're not feeling well.

Yeah this is insanely good

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

Similar to other apps, CoverDrop only provides limited protection on smartphones that are fully compromised by malware, e.g., Pegasus, which can record the screen content and user actions.

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[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

The tech behind the tool conceals the fact that messaging is taking place at all. It makes the communication indistinguishable from data sent to and from the app by our millions of regular users.

Reminds me of how the Germans in WW1 knew they couldn't trust their diplomatic codes anymore so they just sent the important messages in the normal, innocuous telegraph system and diplomatic pouches. They knew that foreign intelligence would be focused on the bogus secure messages.

Horrible name sadly

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

If you want to blow the whistle on somebody and wonder if the Guardian is trustworthy I suggest you ask Julian Assange.

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