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TenForward: Where Every Vulcan Knows Your Name

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[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 44 points 5 days ago

We're getting neither .... we're getting this instead ...

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[–] n3m37h@sh.itjust.works 37 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yep, were stuck with this shitty timeline

[–] Amputret@lemmy.dbzer0.com 57 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I mean, the Star Trek timeline was incredibly shitty for humans up until it wasn’t.

[–] regedit@feddit.online 20 points 5 days ago (3 children)

True. But eventually human empathy succeeded. Call me pessimistic -- the barista sure likes to -- but I just don't see that happening for this timeline!

[–] GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip 28 points 5 days ago (2 children)

We have to go through at least two major conflicts first, ww3 and the eugenics wars, according to trek.

At least we are on track for those i suppose 🀧

[–] regedit@feddit.online 9 points 5 days ago

Right! Maybe that's why all these tech bros are embracing Dark Enlightenment. Trying to bring it about way sooner than makes sense.

[–] MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Didn’t we go through it already like, last week?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

No, that was the Bell Riots. WWIII is scheduled to start in 2026.

[–] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Yes but unfortunately the β€œsanctuary district” in El Salvador still has an entrance but no exit, we may need to riot a bit more

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[–] cattywampas@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Did you see the gallery at the trial in Encounter at Farpoint? Mid-21st humanity seems right on track for Star Trek future.

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[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 days ago (7 children)

Call me pessimistic -- the barista sure likes to

Highpoint of Hawkgirl's day, in fact!

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[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 35 points 5 days ago (1 children)

No, that's not what we're getting. Say what you will about the Terran Confederation, at least they built a space empire under a unified common goal. At least those humans were outrageously evil.

Instead, what we're getting is this:

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[–] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 27 points 5 days ago (2 children)

That map projection though

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago

Make. Greenland. Bigger.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 10 points 5 days ago

RIP Australia.

[–] notarobot@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

I might be mistaken but I think that the comparison is wrong. Starfleet and the federation are not the same.

We want the federation and we are getting the terrain empire.

We want starfleet and we are getting space force

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[–] MystValkyrie@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I mean, looking on the bright side: Even the Federation universe had to go through two civil wars, World War III, and the eugenics war to get to where they ended up.

[–] Pandantic@midwest.social 15 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Strange that the Space Force logo is a combination of both…

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Not sure how they can just steal the Star Trek logo tho…

[–] _stranger_@lemmy.world 24 points 5 days ago (2 children)

The original NASA logo was the inspiration for the star trek insignia.

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So really this is more like a nod to a nodder.

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[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 16 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] aeronmelon@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

And your children will be nodders!

(I read the whole exchange in Michael Caine’s voice.)

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[–] mannycalavera@feddit.uk 6 points 5 days ago

They're the US.

[–] sundray@lemmus.org 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That reminds me, does anyone know where I could get an agonizer repaired for cheap?

[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago

O'Brien can fix anything, and does his own Quality Assurance, so is extra cheap

what we wanted:

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what we got:
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i will weep for the futures lost, but i will not weep for getting mirror kira

[–] lath@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

It's ok. It just means we can cross over to the brighter side.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We don't know that yet. First we have to go through the nuclear war before we can get to Starfleet. We're speed running it now.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Shouldn't the Eugenics Wars have already happened?

[–] data1701d@startrek.website 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Depends. SNW retconned it and said the Temporal Cold War pushed it up.

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[–] Apeman42@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago

*squinting*

We're getting the Might and Magic devs? Is that why Q was a secret boss in MM6?

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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 10 points 5 days ago

The word Utopia translates to "No place".

There is no such thing as a utopia. The point of stories about utopias is just to get people to think about how to improve things. Not to make people upset they aren't living in a place that can never exist.

The world presented by Star Trek isn't telling you how things should be, how could it? It's wildly inconsistent about how things work, like do they have money or not? It seems it's just conveying they have an ideal future economy, but since the writers don't know what that will be, it's deliberately vague.

The point is to show various problems we have today from the perspective of people in a better future so we can understand that our problems as solvable and motivate us to solve them.

If you're giving up on solving the problems we have today because they seem impossible to solve or you believe they should magically solve themselves, then you're missing the point of Star Trek.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

What we wanted

What we're getting

I guess the silver lining is we'll kill ourselves off before we ever make it off the planet to spread our violence elsewhere.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Fuck yeah! I believe in us!

[–] T156@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

You say that, but we seem to be at least on track to a better 2050 than they had.

We've not had a eugenics war, drug-controlled supersoldiers, nuclear conflagration, nor a mutant genocide campaign, and we may not get the second and fourth.

[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yeah in the Star Trek universe they praised Elon Musk

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Guess we have already split off from that timeline. Unless of course the fascists will rewrite history.

[–] T156@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I feel like people overblow the Elon Musk reference. Even putting aside the plot twist, it's been nearly 200 years from now, and they had the whole nuclear apocalypse in the early 2000s, which would only further muddle things.

People today praise Thomas Edison, and he was not that much better in many respects.

It's entirely reasonable for someone in the 23rd century to lose some of the details that we might have today.

[–] Ibuthyr@lemmy.wtf 2 points 3 days ago

It was an incredibly dumb decision to reference a living person. This just shows what a crock of shit Disco is.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Elon Musk still has time for a redemption arc. He might very well be the the person who finally kills Elon Musk

It tracks, though, because

SEKRITSLorca is, in fact, from the Terran Empire

[–] synae@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 5 days ago

Swords in space??

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