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What is your line in the sand?

Edit: thank you all for your responses. I think it's important as an American we take your view points seriously. I think of a North Korean living inside of North Korea. They don't really know how bad it is because that is all hidden from them and they've never had anything else. As things get worse for Americans it's important to have your voices because we will become more and more isolated.

Even the guy who said, "lol." Some people need that sort of sobering reaction.

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[–] echo@lemmings.world 5 points 15 hours ago
[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 12 hours ago

I don't recognise the current American regime as a valid government. Just like I don't recognise the Israeli occupation force as a valid state.

It's not remotely binding or even meaningful to anyone but myself of course. But hey, nothing matters these days.

[–] jabathekek@sopuli.xyz 5 points 15 hours ago

Never has been.

BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRT

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 5 points 19 minutes ago

Absolutely not. When laws don't apply to the president, the jig is up. Trump clearly plans to be in power forever. Either there won't be elections or they'll be rigged.

[–] rickdg@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Is demos how you say money in Greek?

[–] UnfortunateShort@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I know this isn't Greek, but I immediately thought of pesos and I bet you some people are gonna be hella mad if you call the US a pesocracy

[–] Ziggurat@jlai.lu 4 points 15 hours ago

Serious answer : I am not living there, have no idea how to compare, nor whether the court system works as a safeguard.

Troll answer In democracy you have the right to healthcare and education, so it's been a while it isn't

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 13 hours ago

Shit I live inside the US and I barely consider it a democracy.

[–] NeoNachtwaechter@lemmy.world 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

A demo-crazy.

Note that it is not democracy what Trumpeltier is destroying at the moment. It is the functioning of the state. This will take so many years to rebuild, if possible at all.

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 hours ago

yeah of course. it's still a corrupted and broken democracy.

[–] zxqwas@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Depends on the outcome of the next election.

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[–] RambaZamba@feddit.org 3 points 15 hours ago

That's a retorical question, isn't it?

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 2 points 10 hours ago

Kinda. On how the voting process works in general, I consider it a worse democracy than Brazil, since nearly anything only gets voted if there's enough lobby money being thrown at it, not to mention the astronomic campaign costs. Each state having different voting laws makes the democracy weaker

[–] LetterboxPancake@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

Yes, but hardly an example for a good one. Besides that, it has become a bad ally, if it even is one at this time, and a factor of uncertainty.

[–] gmtom@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

For the time being, sure. I dint think democracy is a binary. Democracy doesn't imply a fair system or universal suffrage or a system where power is split.

Like for example the Vatican is a absolute monarchy and also a democracy.

[–] ACbHrhMJ@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

Yes, Americans voted for this administration

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 1 points 51 minutes ago (1 children)

The short answer: yes.

The long answer: it will take a long time to completely dismantle a democracy in a country as big and complex as America. You don't just do that in three months.

All trump has done so far is move as fast as possible to make as much of a mess as possible in the hopes that some of his nutty ideas goes through once the system catches up to him. And the system will catch up to him and Musk and all the other cunts who are having their little ego fest currently.

I have patience. Kind of. I look forward to seeing the consequences of their actions come to haunt them. I also hope this period in American politics will be the wake up call America needs to hopefully bar politicians and political parties from taking donations from big corps essentially try to buy the government and weaken true democracy from flourishing. The US isn't the only country with this problem, but it is certainly neck deep in one of the worst outcomes of letting big corporations take ownership of a government.

[–] HorseFD@lemmy.world 3 points 49 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago) (1 children)

What makes you so sure of that? Trump is already actively disregarding court orders, and the Supreme Court ruled he cannot be charged with a crime if it is part of an “official duty”.

[–] Nangijala@feddit.dk 2 points 32 minutes ago

I'm sure he will do his damnedest to dismantle everything, but I don't believe he will succeed. He may get away with it for a little while, but this shit isn't going to last.

I fully believe it will be the wake up call America has desperately needed for a very long time. Countries like Russia and China never really had democracy and they never had freedom as a value so that is why I don't think trump will be successful in the long term with his little stunt here. It will get worse before it gets better and America is currently in the finding out phase that we learned in Europe in the 40s.

That is how I look at it.

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