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[–] Zoldyck@lemmy.world 61 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Comparing these two technologies seems somewhat silly

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 24 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Imperial media has to push some kind of garbage to distract from their ceaseless support for genocide.

[–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 0 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] BlameTheAntifa@lemmy.world 4 points 4 hours ago

I believe they meant “imperialist”.

[–] Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee 17 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, but internet was for the people for decades.
(And it didn't really cost nature as much. Or stolen from the people so much - even by current laws LLM companies do that illegally.)

"AIs" are getting their enshitification & monopolies pre-baked into their core bossiness models from the start.

Not to mention that AIs will definitely worsen inequalities all over the world (like assembly robots that replaced people but aren't owned by people, and people still need to work 8h/day for decades for some reason).

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(This but AI. I'm not saying, there aren't/won't be other jobs, just pointing out how this reshapes & concentrates wealth that on the other hands allows for slave wages with no prospects for full time jobs.)

If AIs will affect the world as much as the internet (and do so with peoples data), then they should be seen as core infrastructure - and government or non-profit owned.

Monetisation of all the things is killing us.

[–] anachrohack@lemmy.world 1 points 49 minutes ago (1 children)

I think there is no possible world where people are without meaningful work and are happy about it. Even if they collected $10,000 a month and got to spend all of their time doing hobbies and spending time with family, it would feel pointless and hollow. Why have a family? Why raise children? Why do anything if there's no struggle, if you're not the one providing for your kids? I think if AI replaces humans in the workplace, even with UBI, humans would cease to exist shortly thereafter as our lives will have become meaningless

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 17 minutes ago

You serious?

[–] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 15 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Search sucks now, LLMs are useful. Not as useful as tech companies claim it to be but yeah, most people will use it at some point.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 22 points 7 hours ago (2 children)

That's because search engines have reached the stage of enshittification where they no longer need to be good. Instead, they want you to spend as much time there as possible.

LLMs are still being sold as "the better option" - including by the exact same search giants who intentionally ruined their own search results. And many of them are already prioritizing agreeableness over "truthfulness." And we're still in the LLM honeymoon phase, where companies are losing billions of dollars on a yearly basis and undercharging their users.

[–] oh_@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago

Exactly. It will be ruined eventually when the shareholders come knocking wanting profitability.

[–] Tamo240@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago

This is something I think the 'you have to use LLMs or you're falling behind' crowd are missing. Of course these companies want you to become dependent on their product, and unable to complete basic tasks without it, because then when they slap you with monthly fees and ads and tokens you won't have a choice but to pay.

Use them if they're useful, but don't out source your brain. You'll need it when the enshittification begins.

[–] rhvg@lemmy.world 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Tech itself maybe. But the money, the copyright and the politics. AI is filthy.

[–] OfCourseNot@fedia.io -1 points 6 hours ago

money, the copyright and the politics

Of course, the things that haven't affected the internet or haven't been affected by it at all.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 hours ago

No it doesn't. Fuck this fake news from these genocidal scumbags.

[–] cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

the internet is actually useful and serves a purpose.

ai isn't useful at all and has no purpose.

[–] Zeoic@lemmy.world 27 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

It is very useful, just only in very few circumstances. 99% of what people are shoving it into, it has no place being there, but there are some things that it legitimately just does better.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 6 hours ago

I used it to select flowers to decorate my room with. In this case, it worked out excellent. The selection was done within hours, and I created a map of my room for arranging--all on a day off work.

[–] cattywampas@lemm.ee -1 points 6 hours ago

I like to use it to convert recipes to grams.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

AI is very useful and powerful as a propaganda device and a system to generate and disseminate disinformation, misinformation and non-information very quickly and very efficiently.

It was thought that the internet would do the same but that system only goes at the speed of humans and the whole system is regulated by humans ... so as propaganda tool, it has worked better but not as well as predicted. Humans saw the the potential for abuse and fought back against it.

AI is like propaganda on cocaine ... and there is very little to stop it other than our awareness of it ... but the majority of everyone in the world don't care to understand what they are watching is real or not. What that means is that AI is set to reshape how everyone thinks and how we all see the world.

[–] wise_pancake@lemmy.ca 7 points 7 hours ago

We already saw Grok being used for this, though rather clumsily by stuffing the prompt.

If an AI company were behind the scenes fine tuning on specific political sentiment you would never know.

In fact there’s some evidence that later ChatGPT models are more right wing biased than early models (which were accused of being left wing).

Also important to note how much social media gets fed into these things and how astroturfed modern social media is these days, so even if not explicitly biased the well has been poisoned.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I've used it to learn how to read sheet music and help learn other skills I normally wouldn't be able to.

[–] ObviouslyNotBanana@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

I've used it to figure out a button on a vintage calculator which had multiple humans give up assuming it's broken. Neither I, nor the AI knew what it was for but I could use it as a very willing conversation partner that didn't grow tired of trying new things.

I've had it help me come up with an effective deep fry batter that fit my exact needs and gave a perfect result.

It's usefulness is limited in many respects but if you have a rough idea of what you're talking about it will (mostly) be helpful. Until it forgets things.

That’s what they said about the internet in its infancy.

[–] Grimy@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Are you not self aware at all? Who do you think the article is about?

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 8 points 6 hours ago

One worked, though. 🤷‍♂️

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 2 points 3 hours ago

this is about utilization so its basically about how much folks are accepting it in usage rather than just words.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Ah yes 1998, the last year before Matrix.

The invention of the Internet didn't come with realistic deepfakes, now we are in a post-truth society.

If UBI isn't implemented, I expect there will be riots all around the world, rightfully so.