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Originally Posted By u/Smurfs25 At 2025-06-14 08:16:27 AM | Source


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[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 43 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I mean, no need for a warrant means no need for a warning.

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Will that have consequences? Absolutely, possibly deadly ones. But if they want to pull people out of homes and put them into concentration camps, that's a reason to use the 2nd amendment.

Edit: Corrected 2nd Amendment, was 4th Amendment, because I have issues remembering numbers sometimes.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think you mean second amendment. Fourth amendment is the one they're breaking.

[–] BrazenSigilos@ttrpg.network 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Your right, I will make that correction. I get numbers mixed up sometimes.

[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

No worries! The video had a lot going on and certainly caused me some simulation overload. The only thing that gave me any reprieve when I got overwhelmed was that little box that read "fourth amendment." I could totally see walking away from that going "all the amendments are fourth amendment."

[–] salacious_coaster@infosec.pub 21 points 3 days ago (1 children)

At this point, what difference is there between actual cops and criminal imposters, other than real ones also get a paycheck while they're breaking into your house and ruining your life?

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Cops have more backup than criminal imposters. That's always been the main difference

[–] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

People in Stand Your Ground states: You know what to do.

[–] teamevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

I bet that ends up creating issues...who could have foreseen‽

[–] scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago

"Mind your manners" Like these aren't men who'd shoot intruders on sight. Fucking bullshit.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

AFAIK, CBP does not if you're within 100 miles of a border. ICE needs a warrant though.

[–] Cenotaph@mander.xyz 5 points 3 days ago

Yes. And unfortunately the border includes anything within a certain distance of the coast... which includes the majority of the population

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's only at the border - https://checkyourfact.com/2022/06/29/fact-check-border-agents-home-warrant/

I don't think anyone can enter your house without a warrant, except in extreme circumstances (belief someone's life might be in danger, etc.)

[–] scathliath@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I think it used to be, but jurisdiction was expanded under Trump 1. Above guy may be right, regardless of the constitutionality.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It can't be "regardless of the constitutionality", as it's either constitutionaly legal or not. L

But it is illegal. They need a warrant.

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Thanks for the clarification above, but there are still cases where a warrant isn't needed to search. CBP is allowed to wander around any private property, which makes it easy to cook up an excuse for a warrantless emergency search.

Eg: we believed the evil brown person was inside with a gun because we saw something glint in an obscured window from the back yard. Nobody can argue the legality of this because the guy is already on a plane to another country via accelerated deportation rules.

[–] jacksilver@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Can't regular cops do that too? Or do you mean you can't request CBP leave you're property?

[–] stickly@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

They can, but the limits of probable cause and the definition of "plain sight" become much more fuzzy when CBP can legally wander almost anywhere (that doesn't directly house a bed) or search any vehicle. It's harder for a cop to make those arguments from the sidewalk.

As a federal agency, their procedures also have national security/emergency carve outs. How far the administration can stretch all of this is an open question, but they probably have the tools to argue it. At least that's my interpretation, but I'm not an immigration lawyer.

Wanna fucking bet?