Europe

More like, to test whether the US will follow article 5.

So, say that Russia tests article 5. This has one of two possible outcomes.

• Article 5 is not honoured which is "yay for Russia" though not very useful for them since militarily they're stuck in a self-dug pit in Ukraine so don't actually have the excess military power for handling anything more than a small nation like Montenegro. Meanwhile NATO is hardly going to stop supporting Ukraine (and in fact NATO nations might double up on that support if they feel that NATO doesn't work anymore as strategically it's the best way to militarily bleed Russia and make it less dangerous)
• Article 5 is honoured. At which point, who knows how far NATO nations will go in crushing Russia to make sure an attack on a NATO nation doesn't happen ever again. At the very least Russia would be kicked out of Ukraine pretty quickly and lose pretty much all its air and naval assets.

My point is that this is a MASSIVE risk for Russia if they are wrong, with little concrete and currently achievable upsides if they are indeed right, mainly because they're stuck and bleeding in Ukraine and a logical fallback plan for European nations if NATO turns out to be toothless is to increase support of Ukraine even more, and specifically for the attacked nation it might even make sense to become a military ally of Ukraine since that's an ongoing fight in somebody else's territory.

So to me this sounds like bullshit or this "attack" Kahl is talking about is more of the same which they have already been doing: cyberwar, cutting submarine cables, financing extremist parties. social media disinfo and so on.

The Russians have once again used ballistic missiles from North Korea. We are also tracking evidence that Russian-Iranian drone technologies have spread to North Korea. This is extremely dangerous both for Europe and for East and Southeast Asia. The longer this war continues on our territory, the more warfare technologies evolve, and the greater the threat will be to everyone. This must be addressed now – not when thousands of upgraded “Shahed” drones and ballistic missiles begin to threaten Seoul and Tokyo.

Zelenskiy.

So I guess GPS jamming, Internet cable cutting, spreading misinformation, meddling with elections, Olympic sabotage, gas pipeline sabotage, cyberattacks, etc. etc. don't count?

The world would improve significantly without Putin. Just sayin'...

The TACO puppet in the US wouldn't be nearly as bold if he didn't have a Russian fist up his ass, for one.

Didn't we laugh at how bad the Russian army is for years? Now they want to attack Germany?! Schroedingers Russia is always on the brink of collaps and invading Europe. At least one of these takes must be ... propaganda?

well, don't count on the US for help, thats for sure.

Unless nato countries band together and go full force to stop whatever comes their way though, they are in huge amounts of danger. It won't just be Russia coming for them. It will be China, Iran, North Korea, and every other Fascio-dictatorship out there. Possibly even the US, at that point.

I said it before trump got elected in 2016 and no one listened to me. If NATO countries wanted to help themselves, they would have done a lot more to help the US keep its elections legitimate. Instead they did practically nothing.

The west has too little spine, from Biden's cautiousness to Germany's gormlessness in daling with Russia. They have been attacking. They are committing war crimes. They have sanctioned murders on NATO territory. Attacked supply chains within NATO countries.

Where has real leadership gone.

And by all means, NATo should then remind Russia what article 5 really means. Do not only repel that attack, wipe them out, follow the retreat back into Russia, take a large swaths of Russian territory away as punishment

Fuck Putin

Be ready. Respond overwhelmingly and immediately

Russian leadership no longer believes Nato’s article 5 guarantee of mutual assistance will be honoured

Neither do I, to be completely honest. I think NATO's mutual defence principal is very fragile and would collapse like a house of cards if actually tested. It's a deterrent until some lunatic like Putin decides it's not.

Is anyone else wondering why the heck Russia is picking a fight with Europe? I mean this isn't the 19th century colonizing resource-rich territory isn't the end all be all of foreign policy anymore, so why alienate what would naturally be their biggest trade partners? It feels like even if this all rolls out exactly as Putin wants it (which is more likely than I would like to admit), the juice is simply not worth the squeeze.

This will probably happen around the same time Israel and Iran escalates. I mean, that is when I would do it.

...you know, i wouldn't believe this in a normal timeline, but...

That's a fucking stupid plan the yanks might not play along but he can't beat ukriane what they going ro do when Britain France Germany Poland Spain Norway Finland and the rest push a armoured fist straight up his shit pipe, tac nukes? We got them strat nukes we got them too.

Russia will fuck with the EU.

EU will react with: "Stop it!".

I've been considering putting together like a war chest. Like a chest in my closet I fill with supplies, first aid stuff, a gas mask, iodine pills, water filters, self defense equipment, etc. just in case.

This makes no sense unless Russian leadership is getting desperate (which they may well be I suppose). They've lost almost a million people just trying to invade Ukraine. Opening up a second front with a well trained new enemy just seems unwise in the extreme. It would be like fighting a baby elephant and messing that up so deciding to fight the enraged elephant's Mum as well.

The way Russia played the U.S electorate this past year, no wonder he is getting bolder