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[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 58 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

This article does a good job explaining what is going on, while also shaming the Democrats who fell for the trap: https://jonathancohn.medium.com/a-tale-of-two-resolutions-75-dems-join-gop-in-resolution-praising-trumps-mass-deportation-regime-15cf590770ea

If any of the Democrats on this list represent you, give them a call and ask them why they agreed to this resolution.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Holy wow, I am shocked my singular Dem Blue Dog voted against. But he should have been retired long ago and has done so much damage to the credibility of voting blue. Maybe he got rich enough and/or has health concerns and plans to retire. Maybe he had a change of conscience. Idk, but I'm so shocked he voted against, I don't know what else I feel about this, other than "that's better than nothing after all these decades."

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

There's plenty of Reaganites that drank the Kool aid, and when you're rich as shit you don't see all the actual effects on the country, just the line going up.

Eventually though, some of them see the government doing fascism and and realize it's what they've been screeching about for forty years, even if they can never admit to themselves the part they played in creating it.

[–] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Calling them isn't enough.

We need to show up at their houses. Maybe with a few eggs and some toilet paper, just to get things started.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 4 hours ago

I think I get it. So we set their houses on fire with the toilet paper, then cook the eggs over the fire, right? I'll bring a skillet, some herbs, and some stuff to put in the omelettes. I like ham, mushrooms, and spinach in mine. Oh, and my favorite spatula.

We can have brunch while we watch a treasonous MAGA house burn down.

[–] decapitae@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

News flash. If they're praising the blatant illegal activity of ICE and the Tyrannical-Rump administration, they ARE NOT democrats. They're Fascist plants. Vote them out and if they don't go, start rolling up your sleeves.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They are Democrats. Praising and enabling "law enforcement" while casting oneself as the savior from tyranny is part of the essence of the modern Democratic Party. It's those who don't who are the exception.

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[–] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 2 points 8 hours ago

they ARE NOT democrats. They’re Fascist plants.

Same thing.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Another one of those worthless do-nothing resolutions. They probably didn't even read beyond the title.

[–] SARGE@startrek.website 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They probably didn’t even read beyond the title.

I was convinced a long time ago that none of them read a single fucking thing that comes across their desk unless it involves money.

They read the titles of things, form an opinion based on the title, and vote whichever way their party leaders tell them to.

The ones that vote differently I figure either know it won't make a difference, they have some way of benefiting from the opposite outcome, or least likely, they genuinely believe their constituents will receive the greatest benefit from voting another way.

And they make it super obvious with some of the names that they want people to stop reading at the title and don't bother looking any deeper.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I also think that the people who actually write the laws make them as hard to read and understand as possible so legislators have to rely on what they are told is in them.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

My representative is good, thank fuck

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 1 points 9 hours ago

All "my" representatives are fascists anyways, WHEW, close one.

[–] BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Remember to VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO if you want ~~Change~~ to PRAISE the People KIDNAPPING CHILDREN!

[–] Chozo@fedia.io 5 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The alternative is voting red, or voting third-party which is effectively still a red vote but just with a frowny face drawn on it.

[–] SwingingTheLamp@midwest.social 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The only effective alternative is to vote for a new second party.

Gotta get rid of one of the current two first. Here's my suggested strategy:

  1. Vote blue no matter who while they slide right. All the leftists hold their nose for the cause.

  2. Send the MAGA party the way of the Whigs, absolute Democrat domination until the fiscal conservatives join them, and the fascists and libertarians make their own third parties.

  3. Push a new party, leftist policy with blue collar vocabulary. Proper terminology is poisoned by propaganda, "hard working Americans", not "proletariat". You wanna distance yourself from those snobby college libruls.

  4. Lefties jump ship, scoop the progressives on the way out. Bam, new second party.

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[–] subignition@fedia.io 1 points 1 day ago

So many people whooshing in the replies to this one.

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[–] mesitoispro@ttrpg.network 8 points 8 hours ago

1-party system.

Fuck everyone voting for establishment democrats.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Omar got how many? The other guy got 75?

Yeah. I'm not voting blue until they earn it.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

Yep, letting Republicans take over will certainly help. I should know as someone from a state whose entire Federal representation is republican. We get some of the most egregious and stupid punishing bills imaginable past. And it's really helped us I'm sure somehow.

However I can't help but think that maybe voting is the minimum we should do. And that we should vote conscientiously and strategically to keep Republicans from elected office even if that means voting for a Democrat. But more importantly we should primary all Democrats and all republicans. Not just vote for who the inadequate ones in charge think is good. Vote blue to keep the Republicans out if we have to. But primary them all.

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[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (6 children)

That's how you earn fascism.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The people we voted for to stop fascism are voting with the fascists.

And you.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're not wrong. But we have to focus on step two of that equation which is primary everyone and not to let the people who carelessly support this keep their safe offices

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

And look at what they're doing to David Hogg for trying.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And? David's gonna focus on step two still. Now the leadership had clearly marked themselves as a core part of the problem is all.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them.

Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You didn’t think one person could easily make the changes needed did you?

That is why I said "the party".

Of course it’s going to be a fight

There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

I'll remind you democrats are involved.

Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power.

[–] FlexibleToast@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Correct, right now this should be our focus. Let's get candidates that people actually want to vote for. Get those boomers out at a minimum.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

vote for fascism light because otherwise you'll get fascism.

[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately the lesser of two evils is the ONLY choice in a 2 party system.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

there isn't really a lesser of two evils.

when one is a fash, and the other one is a fash enabler.

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[–] aubertlone@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

I'm sure you didn't vote blue in the last election or the one before that.

So what's really changing?

[–] the_q@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago (5 children)

The Nazis are taking over and the opposition isn't exactly perfect so they gotta earn my special vote! - You

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Nazis have been taking over since Nixon, and voting blue did nothing but move us further right, although it accelerated with Reagan and Clinton. I'm old enough to have witnessed this slomo train wreck, maybe you aren't. Socially left and economically right ain't left.

It moved us right slower than if Republicans had been in charge the whole time. Americans don't have the class consciousness to spontaneously vote left. Leftist third parties hold very few offices at all, and zero major ones.

Without a shift in cultural hegemony, and a flood of leftists in local offices to make good candidates for higher office, third party votes are a waste. They're not electorally successful, they're not even good marketing.

Voting blue slows the rightward slide. It can't save us, it's not supposed to save us. It's supposed to give us enough time to save ourselves, to do the ground work to shift the culture to embrace the left when a party is ready. The culture has not shifted, the party is not ready. The least we can do is strategically keep out the politicians who most fervently legislate against worker rights.

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[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 2 days ago
[–] BigDiction@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I don’t vote based on resolution bills because they don’t impact the law. This shit is just used in campaign ads down the line to make whatever argument is convenient for the situation. I would prefer if my rep Shri just abstained. It’s such a lose-lose. Yes we condemn fire bombing people in the streets. We do not condone ICE actions but they’re wrapped In the same little stupid resolution for no real reason.

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