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Omar got how many? The other guy got 75?
Yeah. I'm not voting blue until they earn it.
Yep, letting Republicans take over will certainly help. I should know as someone from a state whose entire Federal representation is republican. We get some of the most egregious and stupid punishing bills imaginable past. And it's really helped us I'm sure somehow.
However I can't help but think that maybe voting is the minimum we should do. And that we should vote conscientiously and strategically to keep Republicans from elected office even if that means voting for a Democrat. But more importantly we should primary all Democrats and all republicans. Not just vote for who the inadequate ones in charge think is good. Vote blue to keep the Republicans out if we have to. But primary them all.
You're part of the problem.
Nice projection 😀
Anything to avoid admitting you're a useful idiot.
Says the not useful idiot. Voting is the least we can do
Voting for your enemies does not make you smart.
It's sad this needs to be spelled out for you people, but I honestly don't expect more.
It's what makes you average.
That's how you earn fascism.
The people we voted for to stop fascism are voting with the fascists.
And you.
They're not wrong. But we have to focus on step two of that equation which is primary everyone and not to let the people who carelessly support this keep their safe offices
And look at what they're doing to David Hogg for trying.
And? David's gonna focus on step two still. Now the leadership had clearly marked themselves as a core part of the problem is all.
And the party will continue to fix nothing and delightedly announce that we have no choice but to vote for them.
Watch how they treat elon in the coming months. It'll be better than they have ever treated any progressive.
You didn't think one person could easily make the changes needed did you? Of course it's going to be a fight. Look at the amount of money and number of people that profit off the current broken system. Losing a battle doesn't mean you've lost the war. You can't give up so easily.
That is why I said "the party".
There is? I'll remind you democrats are involved.
Yeah, those established democrats are the ones people like David are fighting... They're not going to immediately give up those cushy jobs and all that power.
Correct, right now this should be our focus. Let's get candidates that people actually want to vote for. Get those boomers out at a minimum.
vote for fascism light because otherwise you'll get fascism.
Unfortunately the lesser of two evils is the ONLY choice in a 2 party system.
there isn't really a lesser of two evils.
when one is a fash, and the other one is a fash enabler.
You're part of the problem.
Whatever you tell yourself to live with fascism. Go ahead and deflect that blame.
The problem with you people is that you don't understand that either way we lose.
Both parties are working together against the working class.
You don't think I understand that? You don't know me. I was a big Bernie supporter, I have a history of voting third party. Hell I think this last election is the first time I haven't voted third party for president since 2008. However, the other thing I also understand is you have to know which battles to fight. I'm not going to not vote for the person running against an insurrectionist. My god I wish we had better choices and I do what I can to support those other choices, but that doesn't mean I've lost sight of what we're fighting against.
I'm sure you didn't vote blue in the last election or the one before that.
So what's really changing?
The Nazis are taking over and the opposition isn't exactly perfect so they gotta earn my special vote! - You
The Nazis have been taking over since Nixon, and voting blue did nothing but move us further right, although it accelerated with Reagan and Clinton. I'm old enough to have witnessed this slomo train wreck, maybe you aren't. Socially left and economically right ain't left.
It moved us right slower than if Republicans had been in charge the whole time. Americans don't have the class consciousness to spontaneously vote left. Leftist third parties hold very few offices at all, and zero major ones.
Without a shift in cultural hegemony, and a flood of leftists in local offices to make good candidates for higher office, third party votes are a waste. They're not electorally successful, they're not even good marketing.
Voting blue slows the rightward slide. It can't save us, it's not supposed to save us. It's supposed to give us enough time to save ourselves, to do the ground work to shift the culture to embrace the left when a party is ready. The culture has not shifted, the party is not ready. The least we can do is strategically keep out the politicians who most fervently legislate against worker rights.
You're part of the problem.
We're all part of the problem, buddy.
But to what extent?
Well if you pay taxes you've contributed to genocide. If you own a smartphone you've contributed to human slavery and suffering. If you eat meat you've contributed to the brutal treatment of animals. Whether you wanted to do those things or not doesn't change that fact.
Being told voting for Democrats is the less bad path is still correct. They aren't perfect and need some serious changes, but the alternative is far worse, but somehow pointing out that fact is a sin punishable by downvotes and insults.