Immediately after this she also says that short-term gains & geopolitical power (ie USA).
She just says that racism allows such a system to even exist.
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she's not wrong, if it were white people that were being killed there would be more reaction
heck, trump made up a white genocide in south Africa just to make them look bad
She's not wrong, but also not 100% right. Racism plays a part, but there's also a good helping of "I've got mine" along with a whole lot of money tired into the military-industrial complex
Another comment mentioned that she did, in fact, elaborate this right after
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I think it's probably more the geopolitics, Isreal is in deep with the Military Industrial Complex, the US Intelligence Agencies, and the future plans the US has for the Middle East (namely the agreement between the US, Israel, the Saudis and India to create a trade passage through the area).
But yeah, if you look at Peter Thiel's work with Israel's intelligence R&D company Carbyne you'll find US agencies near by...
...and lots of these shadey dealing go back generations and have been done by Republican and Democrat Presidents. I think it was Obama who agreed to give Israel 38 billion to buy US weapons - an agreement which basically made the US the sole external supplier for their munitions.
I suppose beyond that it's historical, religious, and racial... But there's more to it than that.
She explains exactly this, the meme just cut it all out.
youtube.com/watch?v=Hk1WEhO07Bw&t=759
Immediately after "racism" she also says that it's for short-term gains & geopolitical power (ie USA).
Continuous racism is what allows such a system to even/still exist.
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Also it's brown people that are dying
You don't need Israel for a trade passage. The US is trying to pivot away from the region to focus on East Asia, where China is. The US no longer needs the Middle East for strategic reasons as the US has developed its own Oil and Gas resources.
Israel is a liability for the US geopolitically. Of course there is a strong Israeli lobby and there is the intelligence ties, surveillance tech and the like. However i think this is more based on blackmail than a genuine need for the US to get this tech from Israel. The father of Ghislaine Maxwell, who ran the child rape circle with Epstein, had ties to Mossad and other intelligence agencies. It is quite plausible that Mossad has a lot of material on the people involved.
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Israel is the West’s ally so the West backs Israel
Ethics are only used to draw support to your side, they don’t really exist
Israel is an abusive relationship, they're constantly killing us civilians and soldiers, and selling our stuff to russia
Because of the USA
Europe isn't doing much either. Especially Germany and Italy stay on Israel's side.
Germany at the very least are very overt about their "unwavering support for Israel" being wholly because they're "the Jewish Nation", which is about the purest Racist motivation possible.
One might claim, as others did, that for the US geostrategical concerns apply, but for Germany the only reason for their support of that nation whilst it murders Palestinian children is the ethnicity of the genociders.
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So, racism.
Not sure if it is just racism here in NL or because the Ukraine war is more important for us here since it is a lot closer and more relevant than us.
The bullshit in the US is also something we have a bigger impact on than the war in Gaza even though we will have new elections soon.
I feel like she is a bit naive about that. Racism is like a really big driving force that has lead us to where we are today, and it is still a huge part of the problem. But even if you snapped racism out of existence right now, I think that specifically the Gaza situation would only slightly improve. I think there are a few really critical things that you would also need to eliminate:
- The biggest driving force in that area is religion, both Christianity and Judaism in Israel and the US (not all of them, but a lot of powerful parts of them) really want Jerusalem and Gaza as they are both important parts of the return of the Messiah if I remember correctly
- Second and very close to first is power. For the US Israel is the Middle East HQ, supporting the Israeli government is basically non-negotiable. Only if the US government changes to one with actual morals (Yeah right) will they actually go against Israel. And for Israel it is currently with a government built on corruption that leans heavily towards extreme right and religious parties.
- The rest are money, racism, and other common culprits.
I truly believe that if tomorrow racism was gone there would be very little difference in the overall situation, and this is not to reduce from fact that racism is a huge reason of how we got here.
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