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[–] Cosmonaut_Collin@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (2 children)

We need Dr. Luigi to help close the gap.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (1 children)

7 years as of right now. It's trending downward.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

There are remedies to close that gap...

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I know what you mean, but the bulk of the actual problem is that working class Americans can't stop fucking killing themselves with stupid behavior. The leading causes of death are preventable. The thing you mean that you dare not simply come out and say because you value your liberty is living in a fantasy so that you don't have to do the hard work of fixing reality.

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

Keep licking them boots.

[–] half_fiction@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You can't truly believe rich people are just inherently better at not dying of heart disease or cancer.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca -3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's a lot better than the premise that murdering CEOs is going to improve the life expectancy of the working class. You just breeze by that, and then you stumble on my take?? People are looking for easy answers that don't require they make any changes whatsoever. They're begging for the intervention of some kind of savior, when the real answer is, "just stop killing yourself."

[–] trevor@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 3 months ago

Hey. I saw you throating the boots of the exploitative owning class in a bunch of your comments. Do you have any good takes about anything? Like, even on a totally different topic?

[–] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 1 points 3 months ago

We pay twice what other countries do for healthcare, for much worse results. The insurance plague is definitely party of the problem.

When insurance companies are auto denying claims in hope you give up and never challenge that bullshit contact breach, it's definitely a massive part of the problem.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Luigi Mangione was trying his best to close that gap.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

For fuck's sake please stop robbing this man of his presumption of innocence.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

I'm not on the jury.

[–] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

That can be corrected pretty quick.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 3 months ago

Surprised it's only 7 tbh.

[–] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

Yes but they keep voting to have their lifespans cut.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago
[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Wow. It's rare to see someone incorrectly use fewer instead of less.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Isn't fewer the better choice in formal English because years is a countable plural noun?

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

It's not. You can count years, but years are a unit of time and you can't count time. Same thing with kilos or meters or liters or a bunch of other things.

It's not a super strict rule that you can apply blindly anyway. Money is very much countable but it's "less".

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

it's not

it is

years are a unit of time and you can't count time

wtf lmfao

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have less money, because I have fewer dollars. I have less time to live than them, because I have fewer years left.

[–] herrvogel@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

JFC this thread is bizarre. Just look this shit up, it's not that hard. In fact here: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=less+vs+fewer&t=ffab&ia=web

You will see that all of those results will agree that less is almost always correct when talking about time, despite the unit. And the very rare cases where fewer is correct do not cover OP's title.

You will also see that less is practically always correct for money. It is the single most notable exception to the countable vs uncountable rule that is mentioned very often.

edit: I'm also gonna preempt any possible "it's not incorrect it's just unusual" response. "Just unusual" or "just awkward" is very often as close to incorrect as certain things get in a language.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

From Grammerly:

It is also customary to use less with regard to time, even though we can count time in seconds, minutes, hours, and so on.

Example:

Ethan has been at his job for less than five years.

I wish I could spend less time on household chores.

Yet, depending on how general or specific your reference to time is, it may require the use of fewer.

Example:

I wish I could spend fewer hours on household chores and more on watching television.


Both less and fewer are perfectly acceptable in this context.

[–] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

I'm late to the party, but I just wanted to point out that your username followed by your argument gave me a good chuckle.

OBJECTION!!!

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well obviously, once we retire our lives no longer have value.

The closer retirement age and death are the better it is for the economy; at its most efficient we'd work until the day we die at 60.

I mean, no. Entire industries are founded on retirement money being spent. They want people to save 401ks, no pensions. And then die as soon as they run out of money or start costing the state anything

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

This is a logical trick - the longer you live, the likely you get richer.

I understand everyone's bias, but not why such pleasant to find moments are left ignored.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Those with investments and other preparations in place to retire comfortably and still make money somehow are only a fraction of the population. Not everyone's a business owner, invested in the stock market in time, has a savings account, got an inheritance, owns their own house, or lives debt free, etc. There's a chasm between the haves and the have-nots that is only getting wider and accelerating in the USA.

[–] halykthered@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

Not 1% rich, as the article says.

Years of being unable to afford preventative care, and insurance coverage denial for helpful procedures, mean the average person will die sooner. The lifespan of Americans is much lower, despite higher costs of healthcare, when compared against peer countries.

I bet there's more plastic in poorer people as well.