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There was a house fire, so they were checking the mail sometime after it happened. Their dog had been missing since the fire. They discovered the skull of the dog on display, and were distraught. Neighbor came out and shot Joss in the head. Police said they don't suspect a hate crime.
America is fucked up.
Shot him in the head and then called them a gay slur while he bled out in his husband's arms, but its not a hate crime.
I hope america ends in ashes
He had to call him a gay slur so his neighbours and the police knew he's cool
American here. Me too. The whole system has been corrupt for decades
So fucking sad. People shouldn’t have to suffer and die for just wanting to be with the one they love.
America you make me sick.
We're making ourselves sick, too
I think the takeaway is just don't live in Texas. For any reason.
The thing is, even if you give up and say, ok things will never change, I'm leaving my home bc I've accepted I don't belong here, it spreads. The goal is to shape America into the reality they want. If you don't stop it, it's not contained to TX, or LA, or the south, or the fly-over states, or the suburbs/rural areas.
Look at Roe v Wade. That didn't just happen overnight. State level policies spread from within and then eventually paralyzed a federal protection for the entire country.
The only reason that even happened was bc the same people that wanted segregated schools also wanted to maintain federal tax exemption, so they saw Roe v. Wade as an opportunity to gain support for their movement. It had nothing to do with being morally opposed to abortion.
The Real Origins of the Religious Right
In 1971, delegates to the Southern Baptist Convention in St. Louis, Missouri, passed a resolution encouraging “Southern Baptists to work for legislation that will allow the possibility of abortion under such conditions as rape, incest, clear evidence of severe fetal deformity, and carefully ascertained evidence of the likelihood of damage to the emotional, mental, and physical health of the mother.”
When the Roe decision was handed down, W. A. Criswell, the Southern Baptist Convention’s former president and pastor of First Baptist Church in Dallas, Texas—also one of the most famous fundamentalists of the 20th century—was pleased: “I have always felt that it was only after a child was born and had a life separate from its mother that it became an individual person,” he said, “and it has always, therefore, seemed to me that what is best for the mother and for the future should be allowed.”
6 years after Roe v. Wade, in 1979, the Heritage Foundation co-founder and political activist Paul Weyrich used abortion as a platform to deny Jimmy Carter a second term bc he knew it would be easier to get people on board regarding Roe v. Wade rather than getting people to support their movement protecting segregated schools.
Weyrich's goal was to always gain power and ground for conservative values to dominate the entire country. He wrote about the need to dismantle the federal government decades before anyone heard of RAGE or DOGE.
They use federal bureaucracy as a talking point now for the same reasons they seized Roe v. Wade back then. Bc it's a lot easier to get people on your side and convince them your goal is to get rid of unnecessary and "harmful" federal policy, rather than admitting your true goal is be allowed to steamroll federal protections with zero consequence.
May 21, 2025: Justice Department ends police reform agreements and halts investigations into major departments
In court filings Wednesday morning, the Justice Department asked judges in Minnesota and Kentucky to dismiss the consent decrees reached with the police departments in Minneapolis and Louisville.
“After an extensive review by current Department of Justice and Civil Rights Division leadership, the United States no longer believes that the proposed consent decree would be in the public interest,” the DOJ said of the Minneapolis agreement.
The Civil Rights Division is also closing investigations into local police departments in Phoenix; Trenton, New Jersey; Memphis, Tennessee; Mount Vernon, New York; Oklahoma City, Oklahoma; and the Louisiana State Police.
Jim Pasco, the longtime Executive Director of the Fraternal Order of Police, said that consent decrees are ineffective and “do not make any material positive difference in the relationship between police departments and the cities they serve.”
“In fact, to the contrary, it exacerbates the problem because it validates thinking in urban areas that the police are their enemy,” he said.
So the entire U.S. believes that? Across all those cities and states? Or does a select group of people seem to be speaking for the entire U.S. and making some very concerning policy decisions regarding federal protections?
I didn't read all of your wall of text but Roe v. Wade is a bad example. The American people should have never relied on case law precedent and should have pushed to enshrine the protections in law.
Same-sex marriage is a better example as it is protected by case law precedent in Obergefell but has also been enshrined in law through the Respect for Marriage Act.
Roe v Wade was the original example and how segregationists gained control of a large chunk of American voters just in time for Reagan to be president. Same sex marriage came later.
It's explained in the wall of text, but bottom line is you can thank the Heritage Foundation.
Same sex marriage came later.
Which means Americans had that much longer to enshrine a woman's right to choose in law and didn't.
That is my whole point. Relying on a "historical interpretation" was always a mistake.
If you make it law then it has some measure of permanence. Better if you can get a constitutional amendment passed.
That Politico article is an excellent read, thanks for sharing!
Thanks! I grew up southern Baptist and had no idea about any of that until very recently. Puts a very different spin on a lot of the things I grew up hearing.
Crazy to think that article is from 2014, and still somehow most people don't know this information!
Yeah it’s incredible. I wish we had more responsible journalists and organizations instead of the corpo controlled slop we have.
Low cost of living states trap you.
I would LOVE to leave Oklahoma. But a lot of the same reasons I want to leave are the reasons I’m trapped here (legal discrimination against trans people, absolutely no form of support for domestic violence survivors, and crippling PTSD from growing up in a state that doesn’t view me as human.)
I got the hell out of my shit red state and moved to progressive bubble. Much respect, I don't have to face the same struggles as you, but there are two openly trans people where I work and one is a red state bigotville escapee. Some super progressive places have support programs to help like this one: https://www.transrelocationfund.com/
Police records obtained by NBC News and interviews with Kern de Gonzales and the pair’s neighbors paint a complicated picture of what led up to Joss' death.
So it's a fact he went on to Joss' property to confront him, and then ended up shooting him in the head...? On his own property? And then calling him a slur after he shot him?
Regardless of history, if it happened on Joss' property, it really doesn't seem complicated. It seems like a pretty deliberate decision, and if he put the dog skull on their property it actually kinda seems pre-meditated. Like he was hoping for a confrontation.
I've had some awful neighbors in the past, and it sucks. Sometimes you just can't get along with people. Even the worst of the worst neighbors I've had, I can't imagine ever going on to someone else's property to confront them, killing them, and then expecting anyone to believe I might have been in the right.
It's one thing to defend your own home, but it's not your job to confront your neighbor on private property with a lethal weapon, just bc they had previously been walking around the neighborhood with a pitchfork. Wtf?
Regarding whose property it was, it's likely debatable. From Kern de Gonzalez's post, it seems like they were living in a trailer park. Sometimes all the property outside the trailer itself technically belongs to the park management and is treated like a shared public area. There's all sorts of weird little jurisdictional technicalities that happen in trailer parks from what I've been told.
I thought the trailer park is where they live currently because the house burned down. I think in Tristan's post it was mentioned the the house was left to Joss by a grandparent.
You know what else is fucked up?
There are an average of 53 firearm homicides every day in the USA. The only reason this one makes the news is that someone mildly famous is involved. Probably dozens of other shootings on that same day for some fucked up hate reason as well, but we wont ever hear about them
The other day someone on Lemmy introduced me to the concept of a 'bed pistol' as a gun you take to bed with you.
The existence of such a concept is so bizarre and distopian.
at first I read Jonathan as "Johnson" and for a split moment in time I was filled with hope that it would be "Mike Johnson" but nope. Now I feel like the guy in that old Russian joke about checking the newspaper headline every day for an obituary.
Reads like an episode of "Fear Thy Neighbor".
