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[–] cybervseas@lemmy.world 253 points 19 hours ago (5 children)

Oof he isn’t convicted but the media isn’t saying “allegedly” in headlines for him. Shows how they’re trying to sway public opinion.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 94 points 18 hours ago

Defense has brought it up multiple times already, it's biasing the jury pool

[–] ccunning@lemmy.world 45 points 18 hours ago

Was it supposed to be a direct quote from the DA? Even if so, it shouldn’t be in the headline.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 41 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

Public opinion is already swayed. Luigi Mangione has become a symbol to a lot of people and as such the super-rich want to punish him.

I bet they are more scared of the symbol than they are of the thought that Mangione is innocent and the real shooter might still be free and plotting another hit.

The "real shooter" would only be one person, but a symbol has the power to create 10 or 100 more or to spark a violent rebellion and that they can't let happen.

Innocent or not, it's unfortunately Luigi Mangione they need punished in the most horrific and exemplar way possible.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 20 points 18 hours ago

I guess he's not getting a fair trial, they'll have to jury nullify the shit out of it.

[–] ReallyActuallyFrankenstein@lemmynsfw.com 32 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That's actually very surprising - it starts with "DA says" which is presumably their defamation defense, but usually the lawyers wouldn't let that pass.

[–] CmdrShepard49@sh.itjust.works 24 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Well, I'm sure their new AI editors will protect them against defamation lawsuits going forward...

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 129 points 17 hours ago (6 children)

after Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson

Has he already been convicted?

Terrible headline, but I can only guess that "Business insider" would rather defend a corrupt CEO than the victim of insurance hell.

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 14 hours ago

"DA says"

A little misleading without the quotation marks

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 119 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

"Luigi Mangione killed CEO Brian Thompson"

Objection, baseless speculation.

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 82 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

This post either needs to be removed or retitled. Luigi is not convicted and this perpetuates a huge problem in the US of assigning guilt to people through public opinion.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 53 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

If that's terrorism then what do we call the death and pain caused by pursuit of profits?

If they want to have a discussion about labels, it's not gonna go well in front of a jury.

At every step defense should be asking the jury:

If you had been killed, would this be happening? Why are lives valued differently

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 16 points 17 hours ago

… what do we call the death and pain caused by pursuit of profits?

The term I've heard for this is social murder:

… an unnatural death that is believed to occur due to social, political, or economic oppression, instead of direct violence.

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 50 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

He didn't kill anyone though. He's innocent.

[–] Allonzee@lemmy.world 32 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

I know it's uncooth to dehumanize anyone, but CEOs like Brian murdered (and the rest continuing to murder all day every day) more people than any serial killer in history because they oversaw automating the process of selling the confidence scheme and then murdering the marks when they threatened the profits of the confidence scheme when they got sick.

People like Jack the Ripper and Ted kaczynski were pathetic, inept hobbyists at mass murder next to an American "healthcare" ceo, and it isn't close.

And we don't hold them in even lower regard solely because they do it to get ever richer, which is the only practiced American religion.

As humans go, Brian was somewhere between a serial killer and an even larger scale mass murderer like Adolf Hitler in terms of his practiced inhumanity, maybe he should be dehumanized a little.

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[–] omgboom@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 17 hours ago
[–] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 33 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (2 children)

And not a single one of them paused and went "wait, maybe the choices we're making are the problem here?" Instead, it was "keep being evil, but now with bodyguards!"

[–] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 14 points 16 hours ago

They know exactly what they are doing and the choice to gun-up says everything about them. There is no other word but "evil".

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[–] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 32 points 15 hours ago

That sounds like a "Them" problem and has no bearing on the case Mr. DA

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 31 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

what defendant considered a deadly greed-fueled cartel," Seidemann wrote.

I mean, what are they, then?

Every individual word is true, that is the dystopian reality we live in, but even when true they're depending on it sounding too conspiratorial and therefore not credible. The nerve of these people.

[–] oxysis@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 18 hours ago

Parasites who deserve to be tossed in a vat of acid?

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Have you ever tried not being an asshole?

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[–] tenchiken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Why should 40 assholes hiding from someone who is already in custody gave any bearing on his case?

My gf dyed her hair last week, must be a criminal in chains somewhere!

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[–] sturger@sh.itjust.works 25 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

So how many of the execs said, “This job isn’t worth risking my life for” and quit? How many of them said, “Maybe we should examine how we do business and change.”? How many of them said, “My God. We’re killing people. I’m out.”?

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[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 23 points 16 hours ago

I mean the easiest solution is not to work for a hostile company and a public enemy/threat.

Those companies, and that one notoriously, kill 1000's so they are a hostile enemy, actively attacking the populace.

Now I know legalese will fancy it up, but shit smells. Can't hide it.

[–] RedditIsDeddit@lemmy.world 22 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

let me guess not one of them decided to have better business practices

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[–] RandoMcRanderton@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago

Excuse me, ma'am, I'm looking for a woman that looks just like you but is a redhead. Have you seen her?

"No..."

Damn. Okay. Thanks. gunman walks off, dissapointed

"Whew, glad I dyed my hair."

[–] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 19 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (2 children)

Did they consider not being evil shitbags?

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[–] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 19 points 17 hours ago (2 children)
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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 18 points 8 hours ago

Good. Something to consider when you're making life and death decisions for other people in the future.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 17 points 17 hours ago

Scared CEOs—finally, a guilt-free fetish.

[–] ddash@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 17 hours ago

Allegedly killed

[–] MangioneDontMiss@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 hours ago

Don't be giant greedy pieces of shit, you won't need body guards.

#MakeBillionairesFearAgain.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 12 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

They'll do anything to save themselves except for stop being evil.

Sometimes I wonder if those second-tier execs are even more culpable than the CEOs. Like, we expect CEOs to be psychopaths. But those second-tier guys that got a seat further down the table, off the back of a good degree and a few decades of hard work? They know what they're doing is wrong but choose to go along with it anyway because they're just following orders.

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