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Prime Minister Mark Carney has asked for a review of Canada’s plan to purchase a fleet of F-35 fighter jets.

The deal with Lockheed Martin and the U.S. government is for 88 planes at a cost of about US$85 million each.

A spokesperson for Defence Minister Bill Blair said Carney has asked Blair to look into whether the F-35 contract is the best investment for Canada, or if there are better options.

β€œWe need to do our homework given the changing environment, and make sure that the contract in its current form is in the best interests of Canadians and the Canadian Armed Forces,” Blair’s press secretary Laurent de Casanove said.

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[–] Punchshark@lemmy.ca 84 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Fuck yeah! Canada will vote with its dollar!

[–] hikuro93@lemmy.ca 60 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Heck yeah. Go Carney.

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[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

Welcome to the carnival!

or

CARNAGE!

[–] brax@sh.itjust.works 45 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

Seems stupid to buy defense resources from a country that could become hostile. Do any European companies have anything to offer? I get that GOS and a lot of resources are still probably going to come from the USA but right now, the less the better.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 35 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

It also seems stupid to keep importing on a mass scale the culture, news, entertainment, media, and media platforms of a country that wants to invade Canada. Yet here we are.

[–] fourish@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I would be thrilled if all American social media was blocked 100%. Sweep the trolls back into their caves.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 5 points 17 hours ago

I’d love that too.

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[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 23 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] slingstone@lemmy.world 9 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

I read somewhere they operate with a licensed American engine, and that some European nations are trying to replace it with a non-American one.... Yeah, it's a development of an F-18 engine.

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[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 40 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Can I interest you in a Eurofighter Typhoon?

[–] Sturgist@lemmy.ca 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Me personally? I'd love to say yes, but I'm a bit skint atm.....could I get it on IOU?

[–] AFC1886VCC@reddthat.com 5 points 9 hours ago

Okay, make some space in the drive and I'll bring it over later.

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 36 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

There was the "kill switch" rumour recently that trump (any president) can remotely disable any/all f35s they wanted to

It's probably not true, but the truth is just as disasterous for foreign buyers.

A shutdown of parts out of US does essentially the same and is much easier to do on a whim and withhold the solution in negotiations.

People weren't just buying US because "we're the best" it's because we could be relied on for support, because no one fucksnwith the US military industrial complex

trump is tho, and that's a hell of a lot more dangerous for a politician than pissing off day traders

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 24 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

They require maintenance in the US. How well would that work if the US was invading us?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 17 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

...

Yes, that is the point I am making, and the argument your government is making for canceling the contract.

If trump were to cut off logistical support for that or any other whim, they would have to be mothballed.

[–] Lemmyoutofhere@lemmy.ca 13 points 19 hours ago

The SAAB would be much better as they allow local parts manufacture and local maintenance.

[–] Whorehoarder@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

They don't give any access to the stealth tech either, as far as I understand

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[–] Tm12@lemmy.ca 28 points 21 hours ago

Something we can train on and maintain within our borders please.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 27 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Canada could do the funniest thing rn by buying J-35s at half the price.

[–] BetaBlake@lemmy.world 26 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

It would be funny, but damn I would not want to buy military equipment from china

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 9 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (6 children)

China is Canada's second biggest trade partner, unless they're planning to follow America to war with China, what's the problem? Especially because it's for a military that was designed for the singular purpose of defending itself from an American invasion over the last 70 years.

[–] AnarchoDakosaurus@toast.ooo 7 points 12 hours ago

The Canadian public isint ready to swallow it yet but that's where it's going to end up at. China and Iran have been preparing for this scenario for the last 20+ years.

They have all the kit and more needed, and in the right quantity too. In time. People still don't really belive Trump would push the button. The closer he gets the more open to this reality people will become.

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[–] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago

USA: We want to annex Canada. We are not joking

Canadians: Ooh China is very scary.

[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 8 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (4 children)

Yeah, those are definitely safe from tampering.

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[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 24 points 20 hours ago

He's keeping up decorum but yeah these jets are done. You can't buy military equipment from an enemy and the jets would have to be serviced in the USA over their lifetime.

[–] nao@sh.itjust.works 19 points 20 hours ago

maybe don't rely on fighter jets than can possibly be disabled remotely by someone talking about invading you

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 16 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

It always seemed strange that Canada would agree (how much arm twisting?) to buy a plane that won't work well in our Arctic. We are committed to buying 16 jets but it would probably be better to buy the rest elsewhere or put our money into homegrown solutions. Maybe drones or other machines.

[–] Barbarian@sh.itjust.works 21 points 16 hours ago

Excuse me sir, may I interest you in Gripen? Cold weather tested, fascist free, and oh so stylish. Book your test flight today!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 9 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe we should be looking at what we need for city close quarters defenses and guerilla fighting.

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[–] DogPeePoo@lemm.ee 15 points 20 hours ago

Lockheed Martin β€” ”We specialize in destroying the lives of brown people, come fly with us”

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 15 points 18 hours ago

Messing with the military industrial complex is not the smartest move for Trump. All that will do is turn the military against him.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 11 points 21 hours ago

They can pay me in maple syrup.

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