Why would anyone even consider telling any politicians of foreign nations about a top secret project like that, much less blabbermouths like Donald Trump?
this post was submitted on 02 Jun 2025
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Ukraine deliberately blindsided Trump before massive drone attack on Russia
(www.thedailybeast.com)
I'd be surprised if Ukraine isn't feeding Trump false info to see if Russia reacts to it
Dont know about false, but a good mix of low priority targets.
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Between nations that share trust and respect, theoretically, it would give them time to reposition themselves to the coming reality, and perhaps more importantly, give any assets they have in the area a warning to keep their heads down/not step on any toes.
Even at the height of WW2 the Allies kept secrets from each other. Churchill had no idea the US had the Atom Bomb until it was deployed.
This isn’t exactly true. The British were well aware of the Manhattan Project- indeed, the whole thing began as the British Tube Alloys project before they ran out of money and convinced the Americans to take it on, with the British delegation taking prominent roles.
Britain also knew that the bomb was ready for use as the US didn’t have any bomb bay mounts strong enough to hold the weight, and they had to ask the RAF to supply a small number of mounts that had been designed for Barnes-Wallace’s 10,000kg earthquake bombs.
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To be fair, the US thought that there were spies at Los Alamos, and they were right.
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"Deliberately blindsided" is a little strong. We're not even officially an ally of Ukraine. They don't owe us, or anyone else jack shit as far as their war plans for defending their country. Add to that the fact that Trump is credibly accused of being a Russian asset and defers to their interests 99% of the time... Why the fuck would you trust us right now!?
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Considering Trump is a Russian asset, that was a smart move to keep him out of the loop.
Yeah you don't typically tell the enemy about your secret attack plans
You don't sound qualified to be the secretary of defense. Here, this bottle might help with that.
/s.
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Oh, is that why it was such an effective attack?
As is appropriate.
I'm trying to recall a disco song from, I believe, the 1970s whose lyrics in the chorus went somewhat like the following - though I might be mistaken:
"That's the way uh-huh, uh-huh, I like it, uh-huh, uh-huh"
Not totally sure of the relevance, but you're thinking of K.C. & The Sunshine Band's 1975 That's the Way (I Like It).
Why inform Putin's Bitch?
Ukraine is a sovereign country, they don't need to tell Don anything.
Exactly. As a courtesy they might give trusted allies a few hours notice, or at least inform them when the op has started. But unless they needed the assistance of an ally in planning and preparing such an attack then informing anybody well ahead of time serves no useful purpose at all.
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Plans love silence.
And it's never been truer. Doesn't even matter who sits in White House, strictly Ukrainian business that had to pass through as little ears as possible.
The u.s is not an ally to any of us, we have to purposely hide things from them or government and treat them as spies for Russia.
The US isn't even an ally to itself.
Was it because Trump didn’t say “thank you” after the last time Ukraine shared top secret war plans?
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LOOK AT THE FIREPLACE! No fake spray gold ornamentation! What the shit?!? Is the Oval Office a reality tv show set? Compare the fireplace from when Zelenskyy visited to Ramaphosa’s visit on May 25:
That’s some heinous Temu-quality decor! stay classy USA
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“Operation Spider-Web” took over 18 months to plan
Either they left the Biden admin out of the loop too, or Biden went scorched Earth on Ukraine intelligence after the election to protect Ukraine.
I would imagine the first one to be true. There's no reason to inform everyone about it. I also predict Biden would be against it.
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This is the sort of op they would typically notify an ally of when it is actually imminent or just got started. If Biden was still in the White House my guess is he would have been given roughy 72 hours notice or less.
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Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin's move. Would have confidently proven that tRump is an asset if moves were made to the fake target. Trap this fucker and then public punishment!
Should have fed him a false location and then monitored Putin’s move.
Putin, the Saudis, Israel, FIFA...
Trump's White House possibly has the highest listening-devices-per-sqft of any office on the planet. I wonder if signal interference is a problem.
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There is nothing anyone should discuss with Cheeto, he is dumb and works for russians. There is absolutely no value in that person, he is a completely worthless useless being.
He's worse than worthless, he's actively harmful
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As they should in the future as well.
Because it's blatantly obvious he supports Russia how often has he accused Ukraine of starting the war by being invaded now?
Should probably use him to give the Russians false Intel.
I wouldn’t even tell trump what time it was, let alone something this hugely important. Trump should feel snubbed, because he’s an untrustworthy piece of taco shit.
Good on Ukraine.
Even if he weren’t a Russian simp, why would Ukraine tell anyone? An 18 month long attack is just tooo much invested to risk losing the surprise
He will throw a tantrum, demand to be in the loop. Next time he gets the intel, Russia prepares, but Ukraine will strike elsewhere 😂
What kind of twisted toxic argument is to phrase it like that and call it news?
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You do what you must when your life is on the line
And what you absolutely must do is not say a fuckin word to trump. Unless maybe you want him to pass disinformation to Putin.
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Good, thats what they should do
Probably sounds better in Ukrainian but "Operation Spider-web" is still fucking badass
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Good. The orange shitter has been pretty clear that he's no friend of Ukraine, there's absolutely no chance that he wouldn't have leaked that information to Russia just on the hope that daddy Putin would give him a pat on the head and pretend to be friends again.
this has been planned long before TACO came into office. how about something is not about mUrICa?
That's why it worked. We all know it.
I would not tell Krasnov jack shit about any military operation.
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