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Donald Trump was deliberately left in the dark about Ukraine’s unprecedented drone strike in Russia on Sunday, which destroyed nearly a third of the Kremlin’s strategic bomber fleet in a surprise attack.

The large-scale drone attack saw a fleet of drones scattered all across Russia carry out simultaneous attacks on five airbases, wiping out 40 irreplaceable military bombers worth an estimated $7 billion, which have been used to reign terror upon Ukrainian civilians.

“Operation Spider-Web” took over 18 months to plan and was personally overseen by Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky, a source told CBS News.

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[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 341 points 3 days ago (5 children)

Why would anyone even consider telling any politicians of foreign nations about a top secret project like that, much less blabbermouths like Donald Trump?

[–] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 226 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'd be surprised if Ukraine isn't feeding Trump false info to see if Russia reacts to it

[–] dwalin@lemmy.world 59 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Dont know about false, but a good mix of low priority targets.

[–] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Dantooine. Zelenskyy is on Dantooine.

[–] GeeDubHayduke@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Far to remote to make an effective example.

Edit: why the fuck did it post three times?!

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Between nations that share trust and respect, theoretically, it would give them time to reposition themselves to the coming reality, and perhaps more importantly, give any assets they have in the area a warning to keep their heads down/not step on any toes.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 37 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Even at the height of WW2 the Allies kept secrets from each other. Churchill had no idea the US had the Atom Bomb until it was deployed.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

This isn’t exactly true. The British were well aware of the Manhattan Project- indeed, the whole thing began as the British Tube Alloys project before they ran out of money and convinced the Americans to take it on, with the British delegation taking prominent roles.

Britain also knew that the bomb was ready for use as the US didn’t have any bomb bay mounts strong enough to hold the weight, and they had to ask the RAF to supply a small number of mounts that had been designed for Barnes-Wallace’s 10,000kg earthquake bombs.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago

The big difference is that an atomic bomb would still be useful once it is revealed while this would likely be significantly less effective.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 24 points 3 days ago (2 children)

To be fair, the US thought that there were spies at Los Alamos, and they were right.

[–] benignintervention@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

This seems like a great place to plug Feynman's talk Los Alamos From Below

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Hmm must have missed this one. Thanks, I'll take a note.

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 1 points 3 days ago

"Stallion Gate" by Martin Cruz Smith. Fun novel about Oppenheimer's Native driver.

https://bookshop.org/p/books/stallion-gate-martin-cruz-smith/120696?ean=9780345310798&next=t

[–] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

There's going to be a bit of contextual nuance when deciding whether to share intelligence and when. I'd bet if we had a respectable statesperson friendly to Ukraine's plight leading this country we would have gotten a few days notice at least.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 8 points 3 days ago

You are confusing nations with people. You can't trust a nation (or any other organization), you can only trust individuals because an organization can always contain individuals of diametrically opposed behaviors.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 40 points 3 days ago

"Deliberately blindsided" is a little strong. We're not even officially an ally of Ukraine. They don't owe us, or anyone else jack shit as far as their war plans for defending their country. Add to that the fact that Trump is credibly accused of being a Russian asset and defers to their interests 99% of the time... Why the fuck would you trust us right now!?

[–] takeda@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Yeah, frankly I think it wouldn't even be good to tell Biden about it, he would likely discourage from that move. At best he would pretend he did not know about it.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 3 days ago

aparently that's what they have been doing. This attack was in the works for quite a while

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Biden supplied Ukraine with long range missiles even while Putin was sabre rattling nukes.

[–] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

in a trusting ally relationship this would probably be fairly normal. In this case especially since the US is providing a lot of intel.

[–] Palerider@feddit.uk 7 points 3 days ago

To Ukraine or Russia?

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

Intel is very different from secrets. Secrets can be blown wide open if they are leaked by one person.