What sucks is that Reddit has killed most other hobby related discussion platforms. Now that Reddit doesn't fulfill that role either anymore people are pretty much stranded. Lemmy is a godsend fr.
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They arent stranded.
They migrated to Discord.
And yes, that's worse.
Reddit sapped small forums and discord finished them off.
Would it be that hard to revive them? If enough people are fleeing Reddit, these platforms could be built again.
Sure. But you need.
- A person/group motivated enough to start a forum
- (Probably) A technical person to maintain/update/secure the server (backups in particular)
- Moderators/Staff to keep the forum aligned with it's purpose (e.g. a US-football forum shouldnt be about golf or football (for the US: soccer))
- The critical mass and engagement to keep it alive and worthwhile to visit.
- Be financially sound for the service they rent and/or host on. Not everyone could host it at home or pay a VPS or rent a service to host on. Sure there are free plattforms to host forums on but the community is at the mercy of the supporting plattform to keep it free (probably by being ad supported). What happens if they switch to a monetary problem?
Yeah that's the issue, Reddit is the only platform to actually have that infrastructure built up. Quora is not nearly as good, and Discord is Discord, so once Reddit purges you off the site there is basically nowhere to go because places like Digg and Lemmy just simply do not have enough people.
IMO lemmy is already flawed in regards to discoverability.
You can have 100s of r/memes spread across as many federated servers. And all that without any mechanic for deduplication or discovery.
Best case for that would be a consolidated community that any federated community can join to have a single feed of that community topic.
If a server misbehaves thwy could be still defederared or blocked.
I'm sure there's gonna be replacements eventually but the web has changed quite a bit so idk where things will go.
Yes. They want to be Imgur, insta, tumblr.
Regurgitated shit
I noticed that when I go from the first page to the next (on old.reddit.com), I see almost the exact same posts. So nowadays I'm done after one page. It's pretty convenient.
My pet conspiracy is that there's been such a drop-off in text-only posts on the popular subreddits (maliciouscompliance, pettyrevenge, etc.) that reddit themselves is running AI generated age bait on those subs now to increase engagement.
AM I Overeacting seems to be none stop women with the same shitty boyfriend.
The lack of critical thought on all those types of subreddits drives me insane. People post self serving narratives that no one seems to even try to read between the lines of, there is no consideration for the other party’a perspective. People seem to want validation, they almost always get it, and any attempts offering nuance or getting more details are met with derision.
It wasn’t always like that. Reddit has become such a shit pile.
Reddit is a publicly traded company now so they must have infinite (read: unsustainable) growth to their Shareholders®. This means that what you're seeing now is a trend that's only going to get worse. Their entire app is designed around the infinite scroll of the Meta clones, that's incentivized to show as many ads as they can between posts.
They can probably make it worse, like popup ads when clicking on a thread. If they're trying to chase advertisers to the maximum then it could be as bad as those free mobile games. Maybe that'll make people leave Reddit lol.
I’ve been off it for over a month and I suddenly got an advertisement for Reddit in my weather app. They are thirsty
If they want to populate the site with ads then honestly they should just make you watch an ad before posting or commenting something. Sure it would be a PR nightmare, but it would be far better then the shady user purging they are doing now, and at the end of the day, at least everyone would be able to post
Lol everyones just going to keep an eye and not post anything because years of reddit mods/automods deleting posts/comments have people shy to post or comment here, or small communities never getting visibility there (the posts from smallest subs still have high potential of visibility here)
They lowkey trained us not to post, because itd get removed for some arbitrary rule violation, making it so we wouldnt populate some other site.
I remember trying to post multiple things on reddit thatd get taken down so a mod could post it, like episode discussions, game releases, trailers, etc. so I have no urge in my body to post/share that here because in the past I would go through the effort just for it to get removed.
I found the general culture on reddit pretty discouraging, too. You post an answer to a question and all the contrarians flock to it, twist your words or just sift through your profile in order to find a gotcha. "Haha, you wrote X but three years ago on subreddit Y you mentioned you're Z, so that means you can't possibly know anything about X!" Don't get me wrong, sometimes it's necessary in order to point out trolls and liars, but I often found it exaggerated. It made me not want to participate in discussions. Not to mention attacking people for their grammar and spelling when a large part of the platform doesn't speak English as their mother language.
sidenote, think wed actually benefit from repeated posts/questions here, like weekly discussion threads not confined to the community feed since its small enough, I'm always curious about what new/old thing ppl are reading, self hosting, playing, etc. but ppl were already getting upset over repeated posts here lol
That’s probably why they don’t like me in the end. I don’t post for karma. I just post for engagement.
Edit: and I post/comment quite a bit
Someone should archive all of the good knowledge for future sharing after AI takes it all over and charges a premium for what should be free.
I think you're onto something, they want to be a quick like and share platform
You are correct and I don't mean to shame but it has been their goal for 7 years now since the redesign in 2018.
Yeah it’s gotten really bad, a part of me was actually relieved when I got my perma-ban
I just got suspended for quoting TV show Hardy Bucks (I'll schlap his face asunder, hai - if you know you know)
Appeal denied even though it's clearly an error. Honestly happy they did it, more incentive for me to bring my posts here.
Maybe they are trying to get rid of discussion, but it seems shortsighted to me, the discussion is the whole reason I went there at all.
Reddit has never been a discussion forum first. It's always been a media/link aggregation platform. It can't shift towards something it's always been since its inception.
Yeah, but what made Reddit worth using was the discussion. Link aggregators weren't a new thing before Reddit. Reddit's ranked and nested commenting system is what kept people active on the platform.
What made Reddit worth using was Digg, a better link aggregator, turning to shit.
When the focus of Reddit also shifted to its users not the content, that was the start of its decline.
"Keeping people active on the platform" isn't the great thing you think it is when 1% of it was the good discussion you're remembering, and 99% of it was quoting canned response memes like a college kid in 2007 quoting Anchorman.
Boy, that escalated quickly
For a decade I was in the “power user” metric of commenting and making content I wasn’t doing it for any reason just enjoying my communities but I’ve caught a permanent ban after nearly two decades on reddit… for upvoting content and making two joke comments… it really does feel like an active purge. If you’re not on either end of the political spectrum there to stir shit and tell your side the people you disagree with literally aren’t humans anymore and start drama or a lurker idk what there even is to do there anymore
The problem with Reddit turning into Instagram is that IG already exists.
At the rate they're going, their actual destination is Tumblr, a company that destroyed their brand trying to fit in with generic corporate BigTech.