And that applies to the trans cause. The bourgeoisie is weakly opposed to trans rights because they get in the way of reproductive labour (trans people are less likely to have children, so they aren't pumping out as many new proletariats as cis people do). However that opposition is not strong enough to make the bourgeoisie ignore pink money, since pink money is still money and money is still power under capitalism.

It's also worth noting that the bourgeoisie doesn't just compete for power with the other two classes (proletariat and petit-bourgeoisie) - it also competes internally. And for that, different factions within the class will seek external support from different groups, and align their discourses to those.

In that situation, what do you expect to see? The bourgeoisie flinging back and forth between lip service towards LGBTQ+ people+communities, and a transphobic discourse. Rainbow-wash something today (it's a cheap and effective marketing tactic!), go transphobic tomorrow; business A plops up a trans flag, business B tears it down. Flush, repeat.

And, well, it's exactly what you see here.

I also encourage specifically Trotskyists to read this text, as it explains way better than I could how the transgender agenda and class struggle are not orthogonal in nature. (Stalinists: be warned that Sybil Davis rambles quite a bit against Stalinism.)

And... on a moral level, let's be frank - you need to be inconsistent like a puddle of jelly, to be a communist but not defend trans rights. At the end of the day, what a good communist should defend is freedom of oppression; and what are those LGBTQ+ activists saying, if not "we don't want to be oppressed based on gender, sex and sexuality"? It's all about human rights dammit.

On-topic: I think that the "forums side of the Fediverse" (nowadays mostly Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin) would benefit immensely from additional platforms; that's why I'm excited for projects like PieFed and SubLinks. I am grateful for the Lemmy software but I can't help but see the people in charge of the project as a liability.

And they would still be a liability even if they had any skill building a healthy community (they don't, they suck at it). Relying on a single platform is like putting all your eggs within the same basket, once that basket goes down everything breaks.

[–] spiderman@ani.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

what if they are turned out to be like this or hate other set of people? lemmy by design is defederated so even if the devs are like this, you can just simply call out them or leave their lemmy server lol. i am sure there are trans friendly lemmy servers out here.

as long as lemmy by design is against any sorta people, you dont have to boycott it.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah lets ignore the lead dev’s opinions on stuff its not like they have power over the project and a big number of users on their server.

Its ironic you say this from the ani.social instance which was previously defederated from ml because the lead devs thinks all anime is degenerate or something like that and it ruined the anime community since ani.social was still too small

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

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So many things I'd have to look up to understand what's going on and why this is supposedly transphobic.

What bothers me more is private discussions being aired publicly.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] colforge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

“Aww we can’t say hateful things in DMs without worrying about it still getting out.” 😭😭😭😭

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

If you don't believe in privacy, then I don't think we have anything to talk about.

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[–] dramaticcat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago

Anti Commercial-AI license

Oof yikes you're a evil transphone. Scraping your profile to train it into a large LLM btw

[–] viking@infosec.pub -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Without context, that comment sounds ok to me?

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Okay. I'll remember you're a transphobe for later.

You know trans people as oppressed people are allies against our oppressors, right? Not granting them personhood benefits the bourgeoisie

[–] j4k3@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're not contextualizing reasonably here. The bourgeoisie in his context meaning, the capitalist class. It is just a comment about how it has tilted to fashionable to support LGBT. That is a reasonable statement. Participation in events is a controversial subject for many. Personally I believe gendered sports should be entirely eliminated in favor of singular combined competition of humans, but I'm a giant dude that loves cycling, where a little woman could have a real advantage over someone like me. I find sports that lack such diverse nuance somewhat outdated.

Many might not see the two party system of the USA as what it presents itself as internally. It is not hard to say, this is a one party system that wears two masks and be entirely uninterested in which clown color mask faces forward at the moment.

I see indifference. I see neutrality. I don't see two sides of a conversation with transparency that qualifies the accusation friend. Feel free to post with transparency though.

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maybe you need the context of all the transphobic shit that’s happened lately, like the Olympics boxing stuff? Idk, it still seems transphobic without context. No clue who this guy is though

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago

Lead Lemmy dev

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that ~~post~~message from nutomic is a classic demonstration of the horseshoe theory.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -1 points 1 year ago

Next time someone asks me what Lemmy's like, I'll just refer them to this post.

"And see? That's my comment down here with the gif."

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[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bourgeoisie means the middle class, it's frustrating that term has become incorrectly popularized as "those in power" or "the upper crust".

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Not quite. Bourgeois were the merchant class which was the middle one during feudal times. But now they have become the ruling class and the term has started changing in meaning, but the old use still Is valid

[–] Varyk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've heard the argument, but we already have more accurate terms like "capitalist".

I'm not saying people are going to stop using those terms, I just find personally find it silly.

It's like calling a truck a bicycle, and then having to explain every time that you understand a truck isn't really a "bicycle" but you have to call it a "bicycle" because everybody else calls it a bicycle.

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The developer is expressing their opinion on their instance using their software. The beauty of federation and the software he has crrated is that you can build a community that you want.you never have to interact with or his instance.

This post is drama for the sake of drama.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

He receives thousands of dollars in donations to make the software. I’d rathe people start supporting software developers made by non bigots

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -2 points 1 year ago

It's a weird place to draw the line. You probably use all kinds of products with scumbag companies and owners yet you draw the line at a guy's Foss project which has nothing to do with his views and the project barely makes min wage yet serves tens of thousands of people.

You don't need to withdraw your support because you already do nothing to support. Again I think you are creating drama for the sake of drama. The guy is an open Communist and you are shocked that he's transphobic.