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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/26211900

[Transphobia Warning] Nutomic’s Stance on Transgender People

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 1 points 11 months ago

I know that I shouldn't, but...

Off-topic: why Nutomic's comment is idioticIt's a big false dichotomy.

As a class, the bourgeoisie only cares about staying in power. Everything else from its PoV is fluff, to be situationally used or opposed.

And that applies to the trans cause. The bourgeoisie is weakly opposed to trans rights because they get in the way of reproductive labour (trans people are less likely to have children, so they aren't pumping out as many new proletariats as cis people do). However that opposition is not strong enough to make the bourgeoisie ignore pink money, since pink money is still money and money is still power under capitalism.

It's also worth noting that the bourgeoisie doesn't just compete for power with the other two classes (proletariat and petit-bourgeoisie) - it also competes internally. And for that, different factions within the class will seek external support from different groups, and align their discourses to those.

In that situation, what do you expect to see? The bourgeoisie flinging back and forth between lip service towards LGBTQ+ people+communities, and a transphobic discourse. Rainbow-wash something today (it's a cheap and effective marketing tactic!), go transphobic tomorrow; business A plops up a trans flag, business B tears it down. Flush, repeat.

And, well, it's exactly what you see here.

I also encourage specifically Trotskyists to read this text, as it explains way better than I could how the transgender agenda and class struggle are not orthogonal in nature. (Stalinists: be warned that Sybil Davis rambles quite a bit against Stalinism.)

And... on a moral level, let's be frank - you need to be inconsistent like a puddle of jelly, to be a communist but not defend trans rights. At the end of the day, what a good communist should defend is freedom of oppression; and what are those LGBTQ+ activists saying, if not "we don't want to be oppressed based on gender, sex and sexuality"? It's all about human rights dammit.


On-topic: I think that the "forums side of the Fediverse" (nowadays mostly Lemmy and Kbin/Mbin) would benefit immensely from additional platforms; that's why I'm excited for projects like PieFed and SubLinks. I am grateful for the Lemmy software but I can't help but see the people in charge of the project as a liability.

And they would still be a liability even if they had any skill building a healthy community (they don't, they suck at it). Relying on a single platform is like putting all your eggs within the same basket, once that basket goes down everything breaks.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Without context, that comment sounds ok to me?

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Maybe you need the context of all the transphobic shit that’s happened lately, like the Olympics boxing stuff? Idk, it still seems transphobic without context. No clue who this guy is though

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Lead Lemmy dev

[–] spiderman@ani.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

what if they are turned out to be like this or hate other set of people? lemmy by design is defederated so even if the devs are like this, you can just simply call out them or leave their lemmy server lol. i am sure there are trans friendly lemmy servers out here.

as long as lemmy by design is against any sorta people, you dont have to boycott it.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago

Yeah lets ignore the lead dev’s opinions on stuff its not like they have power over the project and a big number of users on their server.

Its ironic you say this from the ani.social instance which was previously defederated from ml because the lead devs thinks all anime is degenerate or something like that and it ruined the anime community since ani.social was still too small

[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 0 points 11 months ago (1 children)

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So many things I'd have to look up to understand what's going on and why this is supposedly transphobic.

What bothers me more is private discussions being aired publicly.

Anti Commercial-AI license

[–] dramaticcat@sh.itjust.works -1 points 11 months ago

Anti Commercial-AI license

Oof yikes you're a evil transphone. Scraping your profile to train it into a large LLM btw

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world -1 points 11 months ago

Next time someone asks me what Lemmy's like, I'll just refer them to this post.

"And see? That's my comment down here with the gif."

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The developer is expressing their opinion on their instance using their software. The beauty of federation and the software he has crrated is that you can build a community that you want.you never have to interact with or his instance.

This post is drama for the sake of drama.

[–] xnx@slrpnk.net 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

He receives thousands of dollars in donations to make the software. I’d rathe people start supporting software developers made by non bigots

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz -1 points 11 months ago

It's a weird place to draw the line. You probably use all kinds of products with scumbag companies and owners yet you draw the line at a guy's Foss project which has nothing to do with his views and the project barely makes min wage yet serves tens of thousands of people.

You don't need to withdraw your support because you already do nothing to support. Again I think you are creating drama for the sake of drama. The guy is an open Communist and you are shocked that he's transphobic.