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No evidence has been seen that a genocide is occurring in Gaza or that women and children were targeted by the IDF, UK government lawyers have claimed, as a high court case opened into the handling of arms exports controls to Israel.

They also suggested there was no obligation placed on the UK to make other states comply with international humanitarian law but only to ensure that no breach occured within its jurisdiction.

The government is seeking to defend itself in a judicial review brought over allegations that it acted unlawfully in continuing to sell F-35 parts and components to a global pool, even though some of those components might be used by Israel in Gaza in a way that the government regards as a breach of international law.

Much of the case will turn on the extent to which international law places obligations in domestic law.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 73 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As they walk over the dead bodies. Nothing to see here. Business as usual.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 week ago

Business as usual.

Well, by the standards of the British Empire that could very well be considered true.

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

One cannot see what one does not want to see.

[–] perestroika@lemm.ee 33 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yes. These guys have a vested interest in their client selling F-35 parts, so they will try to paint white as black.

The interesting part will be whether the court accepts their reasoning.

[–] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 11 points 1 week ago

“It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends upon his not understanding it!” - Upton Sinclair

[–] nocklobster@lemmy.world 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Israel is trying to limit incidental harm to women and children? THEY ARE STARVING THE FUCKING REGION!

[–] Tja@programming.dev 16 points 1 week ago

No no, you see, it's a targeted starvation, they are only cutting power, medicine, water and food to the men... /s

[–] b161@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The UK is participating in genocide.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The current leadership of the British party which is now in Government has a MASSIVE personal debt to Israel and Israeli-linked Jewish Organisations in Britain for their campaign to oust the previous leader of the party - the first actual leftwinger elected to it since the 80s - using accusations of anti-semitism which were so wild that at one point a Jewish Holocaust Survivor was repeatedly said to be an anti-semite for what he said in a conference for Palestine, as a means to claim that Labour leader was an anti-semite by association (they sat in the same panel in that conference).

Israel delivered Sir Keir Starmer the top position at the party which was the next in line to get into Government and hence his premiership and Sir Keir Starmer is paying them back by having Britain help Israel mass murder Palestinian children.

The very Prime Minister of the British Government (as well as pretty much the whole of the Labour leadership) has been bought by Israel, not with money but with the greatest favour in their lives.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (6 children)

WTF? Even our government (Denmark) foreign minister is alarmed by what Israel is doing in Gaza, and he is traditionally very pro Israel!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_genocide

According to a United Nations Special Committee,[37] Amnesty International, and other experts and human rights organisations, Israel is committing genocide against the Palestinian people

This is so widely reported and acknowledged the only way to ignore it is extreme bias or more likely corruption.

It is also absolutely clear that Israel is committing war crimes regularly, there is zero doubt t about it, and the political leadership in Israel is wanted criminals because of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Criminal_Court_arrest_warrants_for_Israeli_leaders

On 21 November 2024, following an investigation of war crimes and crimes against humanity, the International Criminal Court (ICC) issued arrest warrants for two senior Israeli officials, Benjamin Netanyahu, the Prime Minister of Israel, and Yoav Gallant, the former Minister of Defense of Israel,

Please UK, don't go as corrupt malignant and stupid on us as USA. 🙏

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Ever since Brexit I think it'd a little late for that.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

Brexit was bad, but hopefully we can still work closely together. UK is still finding their footing after Brexit.
USA is a different more fundamental break of trust, which I would hate to see repeated with UK.
In most EU countries USA is now more unpopular than China!

UK is on a route where they are balancing EU and USA against each other, while completely forgetting that it was not EU that wanted the break, and EU is still their friend, and USA is not. just look how USA is treating Canada! It's insane that UK is looking towards USA considering how unfriendly USA has become even to their closest ally!

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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 week ago

New Labour has fully transitioned the Labour Party to a Ethno-Fascist Genocide supporting Far Right party.

Almost every other week I get reminded of just how good my decision to leave Britain with Brexit was.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 25 points 1 week ago

That lawyer should be force to move there.

[–] Geetnerd@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (47 children)

Israel is a valuable strategic staging point for The West in the The Middle East. No Western Power will jeopardize access to it.

That's why Israel's behavior is tolerated, and Israel knows it.

And no, I'm not an Anti-Semite. Not all Jews are Israelis.

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[–] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago

There's no evidence there are trees in the forest.

There's no evidence the earth is round.

[–] Akasazh@feddit.nl 19 points 1 week ago

Well of course Lawyers would say that. Defending amoral actions by their clients is their raison d'etre.

I'm more curious what the judges say tbh

[–] Whateley@lemm.ee 19 points 1 week ago

I can show them ttlhe videos I've seen of fathers dragging the broken bodies of their children from burning rubble if they need evidence. Fucking ghouls.

[–] hedhoncho@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

Of course there’s genocide. Palestine has been fighting for their homes since I was born. It’s so tragic

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'd like to hear from a nation that isn't unfairly biased in favor of Israel.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 16 points 1 week ago

You have. They’ve all said Israel is at least committing widespread war crimes, while plenty have said it’s a straight up genocide or apartheid.

[–] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Hmmm I wonder if they have any financial incentive to lie…

[–] mhague@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago

When I read through the American report, it detailed genocide by Israel. It painted a horrific picture with Israel holding up or "losing" food and medicine in order to starve civilians.

The report concluded with "There is no genocide."

It's what happens when there's a genocide but you decide there isn't one, but you still need to describe the genocide.

[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 10 points 1 week ago

Amazing how easy it is for some people to turn a blind eye when money's to be made.

[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 week ago

so what you're saying is they're fucking liars? Got it.

[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 7 points 1 week ago

We did however find many recently dug mini basements! There were lots of stinky people in them. We didn't stop to ask because of the stink and I think you need to dig to go into the basements and many only fit one person. We did see a bunch of community basements and oh man those stunk! You know like road kill? Like that but worse! ......hmmm.....WAIT a god dammed minute! Those were bunkers! Wow! Incredible! And here we were thinking they were basements! But only some had a little house on them with a cross to fool us into thinking they were Christian! No! Those were bunkers!

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Just like there is no war in Ba Sing Se.

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