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[–] gaja@lemm.ee 159 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Got a lot to say but I'll keep it brief-ish. Corporations love unhealthy people. They will artificially celebrate this and reinforce unhealthy lifestyles. This extends beyond weight.

Once entrapped, escape is hard. Some are passive and depressed. Some are dismissive and defensive. No matter which cycle you are in, it's unhealthy.

I think smoking is bad like I think being overweight is bad. If a doctor says alcohol is killing you, it probably is. I don't think hatred is deserved, but don't expect any validation for those choices.

[–] PP_BOY_@lemmy.world 73 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Surely no coincidence that being obese is a gateway to hyperconsumerism anyway. Sugary, fatty, processed snack foods are way more profitable than healthy meals.

Walking around town is free, can't have that. Sit at this computer chair, watch advertisements and play video games instead.

Heart disease at 26? That'll be $2k/month until you die.

Get depressed, buy the meds, never leave your couch, don't fight back, you're the evolution of humanity and - most of all - you are beautiful.

[–] toadjones79@lemm.ee 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am down 50+ pounds, and have another 20 to go. This is new to me, but I absolutely agree with everything you said.

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[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (9 children)

The meme isn't about that, I've read stories of some doctors refusing to perform surguries to overweight people, but other doctors doing the surgery anyway.

The same way a lot of women get told stuff is just from their period by doctors.

[–] medgremlin@midwest.social 93 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I'm a medical student and I have some direct experience with this. Sometimes, the difference between the surgeon who will do the procedure versus the surgeon that won't do the procedure is the availability of specialized facilities and equipment that they have access to. An elective surgery (i.e. not an emergency surgery) can go from routine to very high risk depending on the amount of adipose tissue the patient has.

And it's not just a matter of the fat tissue overlying the surgical site. Morbidly obese patients are much more likely to have things like sleep apnea which can make anesthesia more risky and might require more specialized equipment than a particular surgeon/hospital/anesthesiologist might have access to. The "morbid" part of "morbid obesity" also refers to the fact that people above a certain threshold of weight are much more likely to have other health conditions like heart disease that make anesthesia more risky.

[–] uselessRN@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is what I came to say but wasn't smart enough to put into words. There's a lot more factors than just being overweight of why a surgery can't be performed. For a while an issue at my hospital was we were one of the few in the area that could do MRIs on larger patients. So bigger hospitals would transfer these patients to us just for an MRI because their MRI machine was too small or couldn't handle the weight.

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[–] ChairmanMeow@programming.dev 44 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The reason for that is that surgeons are rated based on their success percentages meaning they'll recommend against risky surgeries.

The upside of this is that surgeons aren't operating willy-nilly on people and will make a proper risk assessment. The downside is that overweight people have an inherently higher risk of complications from surgery, so some surgeons will pass.

It's not because they think these people don't need it, it's because they think it's too risky. They're usually not wrong about that, you just need to find a surgeon willing to take the risk or, if possible, reduce the risk by losing weight.

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[–] gaja@lemm.ee 27 points 2 days ago (16 children)

Look. Shitty doctors exist, but when 1/3 of the US is overweight, there are underlying issues that need addressing. I only hear horror stories when an addict, alcoholic, or overweight individual in my life is feeling insecure or defensive about a prognosis. Too many people deflect and it's enabling a much larger issues. Our basic instincts are being exploited.

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I know, I'm not arguing for obesity, that would be stupid.

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[–] HollowNaught@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

When talking about obese individuals, the fat very easily gets in the way of surgery. Compared to a healthy patient the risk of complications during surgery is much greater and really not worth chancing it (most if the time)

[–] andros_rex@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

Similarly - if you are trans and on HRT, every problem is due to your hormones.

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[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 91 points 2 days ago (24 children)

I can't blame doctors for letting obesity color their opinion. Look around your doctor's waiting room. Everyone is fat. Imagine the suffering and illness they see daily due to fat. How can those observations not color their general attitude?

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[–] db2@lemmy.world 50 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Have you tried not being fat?

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[–] funkajunk@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

I've not not tried it

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[–] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 45 points 3 days ago
[–] quoll@lemmy.sdf.org 31 points 2 days ago (1 children)

quality rage bait 👏👏👏

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I'm not rage baiting, its a shitpost, in the community for shitposts.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago

You sound distressed, you should lose some weight.

[–] TheDoozer@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

I've had almost exclusively military doctors for nearly two decades, and I can tell you they aren't trying to respect your feelings (not that they're dicks). If your tests come back with high cholesterol, they aren't jumping to Lipitor or some shit, they'll refer you to a nutritionist and tell you to exercise more. They have no problems telling you that your health troubles come from that weight crushing your organs and joints.

And that's as a person in the military, who has to maintain a certain level if fitness to keep my job.

[–] janus2@lemmy.zip 24 points 2 days ago

shoutout to my current PCP for actually listening to my symptoms and (most importantly) when they started/worsened and treating them and/or the cause while also reminding me I still need to keep working on my weight

gonna miss her when I move towns :[

[–] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Also if they're dentists (suddenly teeth become "bones to smile with").

[–] Irelephant@lemm.ee 24 points 2 days ago (7 children)

You're going to need a root canal, not because its the best procedure for the job, but because its more expensive.

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[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago (3 children)

What part of the Hippocratic Oath does this refer to? If anything, the Oath specifies "us[ing] those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment".

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[–] tormeh@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 days ago (8 children)

Now we have weight loss drugs, though. Those are apparently unbelievably effective

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 25 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Sort of. We have drugs that can help you lose weight, but they come with their own challenges and risks, and you still need to eat right and exercise. And even then, it's prescribed and covered for diagnosed diabetes. If you want it to lose weight, you probably have to pay for it.

Eating right is much more difficult than people pretend it is, and exercise is simply not possible for a lot of overweight people. You might as well say "don't be poor, and also don't be poor."

So when you say on top of that, "we've made it easier for you to lose weight with this new drug, as long as you aren't poor," that's not really helpful.

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[–] Draegur@lemm.ee 14 points 2 days ago (1 children)

they must harm the fat in order to save the patient

/s

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[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Or a mentally troubled patient. Or a black patient. Or a woman.

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[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Obesity is a disease, so it should be treated as such. It’s not more of a personal failure then getting lung cancer from smoking.

Yet tobacco companies are shamed and taxed, while the sellers of addictive junk foods and sugary waters are thrivingcand marketing for children.

And at the end, people are dying, and taxpayers are paying the cost for capitalist greed.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago

There's a saying: "it's not your fault, but you are the only person who can solve it".

Only you can reduce your calories, only you can stop smoking and only you can quit alcohol. That's shitty that you have to, and in an ideal world it wouldn't be like this, but it is.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The patient is a women, in poverty, disabled, mentally ill…

Medical culture is unbelievably bigoted.

[–] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago (6 children)

And all of that would be made worse if she was fat as well. Being fat is unhealthy. I was a medically obese child. 250lbs at 12. Losing 80lbs is one of the greatest changes I've ever made in my life, if not the best, for my daily quality of life.

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (11 children)

What harm is the doctor doing to fat people in your opinion?

[–] albert180@piefed.social 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

People love to claim that doctors don't take fat patients seriously and complain when they tell them to loose weight.

In the Fediverse there are also some Nutjobs who will claim that being morbidly obese isn't unhealthy and that those doctors just don't have a clue if they think it is unhealthy

[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

#loose

Fat people can lose weight. Loose people... are more fun I presume.

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[–] elephantium@lemmy.world 19 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Isn't it well-known that doctors frequently dismiss health concerns with "have you tried losing weight?"

[–] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When you look at how strongly obesity correlates with everything from back- and knee pains to weakened immune response to sleep issues and cardiovascular disease...

When a severely obese person has any of the above, it's reasonable, scientifically backed diagnosis/prescription to say "these issues will probably go away by themselves if you lose weight". This is about treating the cause and not the symptoms: When severely obese people are heavily over-represented among those with a certain disease or problem, you can try treating the symptoms, but should expect that they return rather quickly.

Of course, there are cases where the issues come from something else, but no matter who goes to the doctor with health issues, their first response will be to try to treat the post probable cause.

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[–] 13igTyme@lemmy.world 16 points 2 days ago

Weight gain can turn a small thing into a bigger thing. A outpatient procedure is more likely to turn inpatient if the patient is over 300lbs.

[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 13 points 2 days ago

Because in many cases, the weight is the problem.

Being obese has so many related sicknesses. From having sleeping problems to back pain to knee pain to more serious stuff like cardiac arrests - being fat brings so many health problems.

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