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[–] Walk_blesseD@lemmy.blahaj.zone 82 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Did you know? You actually can download more RAM by assigning your google drive as swap space.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The masochist in me wants to try this.

[–] cicadagen@ani.social 38 points 2 days ago

Boot up time: 7y

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 42 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You wouldn't download more RAM, would you?

[–] Una@europe.pub 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

You're a rebel and you'll never be any good

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago

Lucky. I can't find any on a website for cheap.

[–] cmgvd3lw@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 2 days ago

I did, it also came with a local milf.

[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 34 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I don't disagree with this. Software's performance enshittification is maybe non intentional per-se, but it's pretty obvious that devs don't think they need to optimize until it's confirmed that their software is insufferably slow. And I mean their software has to be so slow that it loses them customers in droves.

Poor performance then immediately sells more performant gear. Lord knows that if software consumption didn't rise every year, I wouldn't even consider buying new gear till my current shit croaked.

[–] LeFrog@discuss.tchncs.de 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

True, though it's a mix of culpability. We wouldn't be in this situation if devs quit over poor managerial decisions. Devs keep their heads down and do the dirty work, so they're also culpable in these trends. They don't deserve defending, they deserve a wakeup call.

EDIT: face it folks, if you do a shitty thing as your job for someone else, it doesn't absolve you of guilt that it was some else's idea. You're still doing the shitty thing. No one gets off Scott free because they're 'following orders'.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You got it.

Its time to stop acting like all game devs are somehow totally free of responsibility from all this.

I say this as a person who at least used to personally know game devs, mod devs, and I have been modding (as in making the mods) games since the mid 00's.

Yes, of course management is shitheads.

But there are many game devs who don't whore themselves out to corpos they know will do this dumb shit.

There are many indie or AA or other devs who build games that are a little bit less graphically fancy, but run 3x as fast.

Go right now and play Titanfall 2, built on a fork of the Portal 2 Source Engine variant, and tell me that any modern, comparable game really looks like it is so much more impressive it needs all the horsepower and cost that goes into getting it to run at the same resolution and framerate.

If people wanna know more about the technicals of how optimization in games is largely a lost art now, go check Threat Interactive on youtube, that guy does an amazing job breaking this stuff down.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When possible, use open source software that isn't developed by commercial entities (yes that also disqualifies all real browsers available - maybe Ladybird will be different? But then the specs themselves for the web are so bloated it takes too long to implement them and you have to cut corners).

Thing with for-profit development is that micro-optimizations don't make fiscal sense. Say it takes 10 seconds for an API call. That's too long if it's supposed to be an interactive website! You spend 4 hours getting 9 seconds off by improving multiple problematic methods. Now the next 900 milliseconds? Maybe that'll take you 10 hours. Fun? Absolutely, I live for that shit. But in most commercial environments this would be considered a waste of time because I could spend it doing something more impactful.

And anything being twice as fast or memory efficient is usually not noticeable. If you're going to optimize something, it should be at least an order of magnitude. Therefore everything but low hanging fruits often gets ignored. Usually it's a case of reconsidering your data structures to be able to use better algorithms, or reconsidering the business requirements to get rid of some processing that could be avoided. The former requires architectural insight not every developer has, plus agreement among devs. The latter may require outright navigating office politics to get product team to drop some low business impact feature requirement that has high impact on performance.

[–] Jumuta@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

you really need people that want to make good software to get good software, i only use foss for the same reason

idk if ladybird will get better performance than the others though, i honestly think it's a web framework issue more than a browser issue, barebones lightweight browsers like netsurf are perfectly usable on well made sites like the arch wiki

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 1 points 2 days ago

I think everyone wants to make good software, except upper level management that only cares about the money. But in some companies, your boss or your boss's boss has some kind of feature roadmap and they get their asses chewed off if that is not met.

I honestly think most people WANT to do good work. But ain't nobody going to work overtime to deliver a better product with unreasonable timelines. Not unless there's a heavy stock option plan and you're in a startup where your input actually changes things.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.org 10 points 2 days ago

Remember when games and applications were actually optimised? But yeah 32 GB of memory isn't that uncommon anymore, now is it?

[–] cadekat@pawb.social 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Hjalamanger@feddit.nu 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] cadekat@pawb.social 2 points 1 day ago

Guess it was a bad time to download more RAM

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Just be careful, I once downloaded some bad ram that wrecked my PC, since then I onky download locally sourced, free range RAM.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 4 points 2 days ago

Doesn't matter how happy the RAM supposedly was, you still pay for someone to cut it up into bytes and solder it into a chip.
No one needs RAM anyway, you can easily live off CPU cache and SSD space.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would’ve accepted just the Windows logo for “poison” but adding Google Chrome was a nice touch.

[–] Zenoctate@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I stole thus meme. Credits to OOP

[–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago
[–] stebo02@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago

this but with ads

Brb, downloading a new Graphics card

[–] Matriks404@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There's a reason why modern browsers have multiple processes. Each tab and extension is sandboxed for stability and security reasons. There are also memory mechanisms that free up memory when other non-browser processes need it, but I am not an operating system expert/engineer so I am unable to explain it in details. ~~Google~~ Gemini it up.

Also Firefox tends to use similar amount of RAM as Chrome, and it's silly that it's only Chrome is being making fun of for that.

Of course it doesn't meant that modern web is fucking shit, but you cannot only blame modern browsers for that. It's just mostly bloated JavaScript bullshit.

By the way, I wish there was some alternative to modern Web which works like basic HTML + CSS, maybe even without using two languages for two different things (website content and stylesheet). If we had this, we could even have lightweight Markdown/WikiText/You_name_it viewer if exported to that format on the fly (by an app not JS).