That second amendment of yours actually has a purpose and this is it. You have the constitutional right to form militias to fight against tyrants.
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This stopped having relevance the moment police and military stopped using muskets. I say that as an avid hunter and gun owner. You are correct in principle but unless you are packing military grade ammunition and/or explosives, which are illegal in many states, you aren't going to do much against an enemy covered in bullet proof vests and armored vehicles.
You haven't paid much attention to how your all powerful military has been losing badly to brown people in the villages, cities, desert and jungle with little to nothing to fight back for decades now.
The thing about a bulletproof vest is it's still a vest. Still a lot of places to shoot someone wearing a bulletproof vest.
Like the dick.
In other countries, that kind of problems have been traditionally solved by visiting a military base and politely asking for armed assistance. If things really end up badly (which I hope they don't - a court order should be enough to end Trump's circus) - then the 0.7 trillion will be fighting on both sides.
Quick everyone! Rally behind the fat guy wearing the tac-vest! He will waddle his way towards our mutual freedom...
Oh crap, here come the stealth bombers, that Boston dynamics robot dog with a shotgun strapped to it's back, rodan the flying monster, and whatever else a .7 trillion annual defense budget will buy.
The 2nd amendment was written with a feather...
So just roll over? i guess that works... Atleast till something about you ends up on a list.
Bout to find out who REALLY supports the spirit of the 2nd amendment. Noticed that the usual “mah rahts” crowd is silent on this one.
I think you're under valuing the importance of the "mah" part for these people.
They (Trump voters, and many Americans in general). are the most selfish people on the planet. They will gladly shit on anyone's rights to make themselves feel successful at their own life goals. I would also like to emphasize feel successful, because they would chop off their foot to own the libs
I know how self centered they are. I like to highlight their hypocrisy although at this point it’s lit up like a neon Vegas sign so maybe there’s no point anymore.
Your typical gun nut is a fascist/racist boot licker and the rest of us tend not to be that loud.
All that my guns are going to do for me is see to it that I die in a hail of gunfire from whatever form of gestapo shows up someday.
Armed protesting works only when there’s twenty or more people. I don’t know hardly anyone who is armed because my local fellow Democrats treat owning guns like shitting your pants on purpose.
The objective is to take out two. Just two. Even one would be ok, but two: that's a win.
The problem is that the American public never benefited from the insurgency training the US gave to Afghanistan rebels during the Russian occupation. Nobody likely to rebel knows how to make IEDs, or how to booby-trap their houses. And a lot of people don't realize just how useless handguns are for these situations. The Army doesn't even issue handguns to infantry, because they're practically useless.
Long guns are cheaper, more likely to penetrate body armor, and more accurate. Folks, when you're arming yourself, skip the Glock and get a hunting rifle.
A hunting rifle for home defense?
Were we talking about home defense?
Hmmm, I thought so, because of the ICE stuff etc.
But in a protest a rifle could also be too large. On the other hand, people are going to disperse really fast once anyone shoots, so yes. Maybe both?
I wouldn't use a handgun for home defense either, though. Not preferably, anyway; a short barrel shotgun is best for that.
Handguns in a protest are most likely to injure other protestors. Handguns are fun, don't get me wrong, and really of you're the kind of person who feels the need to carry, they're the only practical option. So, in not saying they're utterly useless, I'm just saying in almost any situation, they're the least good option if you have alternatives. If you're participating in an insurgency, you want a rifle. Home defense, a shotgun is almost always going to be better.
Most people are not John Wick, having shoot-outs in crowded bars; and to its credit, in the Wick films, when he had a choice of weapons, he always went for the AR or shotgun first, and resorted to handgun only when that's all he had left. Not that John Wick films are, like, some source of truth, but it's admirably well researched in those areas where cinematic demands allow.
Seriously, my advice for first-time gun owners is: resist the temptation of the more gangsta handgun and get either a shotgun or rifle first. Save the handguns for later purchases. ARs are always a good option: plentiful, relatively cheap ammo, and ARs can be had for relatively little money if you aren't blinging them out. Or if home defense is your main concern, a side-by-side break 20" shotgun: you want power, shoot slugs. You want to not punch holes through your walls and accidentally kill someone in another room or another building, shoot bird or buck shot. Neither will go through body armor, but neither will any pistol, including a massive hand cannon like a .44. For body armor, you need a rifle, preferably one shooting the highest velocity rounds you can get.
Even in a house, if the dirty criminal is wearing body armor, I will absolutely want my .308. At point blank range, no common body armor will stop that. If you're really concerned about maneuverability, get a Bullpup. My 18" .308 Bullpup is 27" overall length - hardly longer than the barrel, and supremely maneuverable.
I mean a 1425 fps slug is definitely gonna have an effect on most levels of armor at close range.
Someone's going home with broken bones, for sure, but the saying goes that with body armor, the only failure is penetration. That's the difference between surviving and dying.
You may not walk away taking a .44 to the chest with body armor, but you'll probably be back to oppressing minorities by next year.
That reminds me, I need to restock my flechette rounds and those AP slugs. It'd be nice if they weren't 12 dollars a slug, but man they work even on level IVs.
I know. I've got myself set up for reloading, and mostly easy, straight-walled stuff. Unfortunately, that's all slow - powerful, but slow, so I have the .308 which has plenty of velocity and punch, if not quite the range of lighter, faster rounds. I'm not picking them off at 1000 yards anymore, anyway. That's a game for the young.
I'd like to get some of those, too. It's shocking how many of these traitorous International Criminal Escapes have body armor.
If you decide to get them do it early... seeing a lot of 45 day waits on ammo online now.
The Army doesn’t even issue handguns to infantry, because they’re practically useless.
The rest of your post is good but this is false. I was an Army infantryman who carried an M-16/M-203 and also a Beretta. In my unit there was one person in each squad with a Beretta. It depends on your unit's mission.
11B, or ... well, I guess they're grouping 11M in with 11B, now. Or mechanized?
When I was in, the only infantry that got issued Barettas were 11C and officers. I think mechanized might have gotten them too, but they needed all the help they could get.
I was 11H/11M, served in a hmmwv AT unit. I know they didn’t issue handguns to the 11B guys (except officers as you said) because it’s one more thing to carry.
But I had to qual on the M9 every year and I hated it because they were trash.
Ah. Yeah. I should have been more specific. The point I was trying to get across is that handguns are a backup.
They're just all gonna tell you that only Republicans own guns and they can't possibly do the same.
It would be hilarious if a reporter asked Trump to explain what habeas corpus is.
An idiot is stripping us of our rights.
Yeah mate, We aren't laughing...
Well you gotta admit though, that's kinda hilarious. I mean just think of it - the most high and mighty nation about protecting rights, and then we just pick Mungo from Queens, who's like "Mungo no like habeas corpus!" And then we just go to the gulag or whatever. And people are running around like "Oh no why did we pick Mungo, what were we thinking." I mean it's at least kinda funny.
I can tell you exactly what that looks like. Something something woke something something radical left something else restore America to what it was supposed to be. You might as well ask ChatGPT to explain the Klingon rite of Q'Ronor
They just keep giving me even more more reasons to never set foot in their country ever again.
Ight, looks like we gonna play this the hard way
Free airline tichets and an exit bonus?
As a completely legal, American-born citizen, what'll you pay me to help me escape?
Arm yourselves. He is also hiring 20k white supremisist gang members for department of homeland security too.
To be fair to Trump, I read the blurb at "whitehouse.gov" and while it does hopelessly attempt to construe an "invasion", it's legally untenable. My guess: he's either insane or bluffing.
They’re tearing $96.7 billion out of the economy. That’s how much undocumented immigrants contributed in taxes in 2022
This seems realistic, but could be an underestimate. Google tells me:
Immigrants make up over 19% of the US workforce as of June 2024 — over 32 million out of a total of 169 million — and participate in the labor force at a higher rate than native-born workers, according to data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS).
How many of them would be at risk of deportation - illegal, so to say - is a much harder question because people don't tell "oh, by the way, I'm illegal" to the authorities. From an economic viewpoint, harassing 20% of the country's work force with the aim of deporting even 5% of the country's work force is committing political suicide. It's taboo of the highest order.
Stephen Miller and the Trump legal machine are now planning to label undocumented immigration as an “invasion,” which would let them bypass courts and jail people without charges, trials, or legal representation.
If they do, courts will soon rule "this is not an invasion".
If the Trump administration then ignores the courts, both the judicial branch and the population will have a common goal: to bring the executive branch into compliance. Methods will differ, of course.
P.S.
Legal advise from the devil: habeas corpus can't be suspended because of someone's assassination. :)
I'm suspending my compliance with the social contract further then. No warrant? No excuses to your bosses if you come to my door, I will be acting in judicious self defense.