Threatening to sue your customers is such a brilliant business move.
this post was submitted on 08 May 2025
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It's also the business model of Oracle I think and they are wildly successful.
Who are Oracle's customers?
MBAs
Anyone who uses Oracle DB or virtualbox in a corporate environment
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I think it had something to do with Broadcom wanting to go for a few big customers and don't want to deal with the small fry anymore.
Surely no competitors will grow in the small and medium business market to eventually be a competitor...
Broadcom knows they bought a dying platform. Their strategy is to isolate the customers incapable of ever migrating and charge them as close to near bankruptcy as possible. They’ll get their initial return on investment in under 5 years and then eventually just let VMware die because new businesses that are still nimble all moved to other platforms anyway. They’ll hit Lotto tickets with a few whales and keep 5-10 devs on to patch stuff for those whales and print 100-1000x return on costs in perpetuity.
That is ... bleak.
I suspect you are correct.
RemindMe in 5 years
#I know that doesn't work here
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It's a valid business strategy to kick your low-paying customers to the curb and focus on the big spenders. Did the same with my little PC business back in the day. The small fry cost shitloads to support and are generally more bitchy.
But HOLY shit did Broadcom kick 'em down. I've never seen such an in-your-face business move to squeeze the cash cow as hard as possible, tank the company, grab the money and run.
People can say, and have been from day-1, "I'll never use their shit again!" That's fine with Broadcom, it's literally their plan.
Right? That's what encouraged me to sail the high seas.
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Where would we be without predatory rent-seeking?
Someone's going to make a fortune migrating firms off VMWare onto open-source VMs.
Man could you imagine what proxmox would be if that project got just a tenth of the money VMware got?
Classic prisoners dilemma. Nobody wants to invest in proxmox because not enough people invest in proxmox.
Honestly I think if Proxmox got VMWare money then they’d become stuffed to the gills with business sharks and probably go the same route eventually.
That is not a Proxmox problem, that is a capitalism problem.
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Proxmox is already perfect (for my use case)
Gonna be obnoxious: Chicken/egg issue. Not really prisoner’s dilemma. PD is essentially deciding to hedge your bets at the cost of the other party or risk worse circumstances through mutual cooperation that could bring about the best result, so long as the other party chooses to cooperate as well.
You should take a look at Canonical's LXD. They've been investing in it pretty heavily and can definitely rival proxmox.
The web based UI is superb and I've never had issues with the CLI which is quite a contrast to my experience with proxmox
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This is another good reminder to not use VMware nor VirtualBox for any reason.
I’m out of the loop. Why not virtualbox?
Because Oracle sucks donkey balls.
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Broadcom is where previously good softwares go to die.
Proxmox, Nutanix, Canonical and Incus must be quite happy with the new customers.
Proxmox ftw
Proxmox is amazing.
I really want to use Nutanix but they are the same price as VMware VCF and they don't support my existing hardware so I'd have to buy all new servers, just to pay the same price.
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We told them to go fuck themselves. We retain lawyer specifically in case we have legal concerns, and the way we use their products, price jack up would be so extreme that it’s entirely worth risking it while we migrate away.
That seems unlikely to persuade those people to continue using VMware, but good luck with that business strat Broadcom.
Broadcom is doing an excellent job convincing their customers to stop using VMware. Such a good job that at Red Hat we've shifted strategies with OpenShift Virtualization to pick up those customers. For the longest time our Virt play was just a stop gap to containers, now it's a full blown product.
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Sounds like a them problem if their software won't refuse to update without an active contract. If it keeps working and being able to be updated then it's on them.
That's the thing, it doesn't do updates. This is just to scare people into paying.
The article says the letter demanded they uninstall updates to the point before their contract ended.
It also says this same letter has been going out to users days after their contracts expired, regardless of whether any updates had been installed and even if the user had migrated to another service.
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I realize there's all sorts of Microsoft hate out there, mostly justified, but no one has mentioned hyper-v as a replacement for VMware. I've got a dozen or so machines running on a single VMware host and after the broadcom buyout decided to swap over, havent pulled the trigger yet as I'm using it to get a new server and wait for our support contract to end.
In the small/medium business space is proxmox a better bet?
From my experience running heavily Hyper-V over the last 15 years, don't be afraid of it, it's worth the look. Especially for a single node like you're talking, no reason not to in my opinion.
Proxmox is definitely on its way to become a viable replacement for sure. There's also OpenShift from Red Hat which could be worth a look at as well.
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I had a great experience with hyper-v. 2 nodes running about 60 vms for 7 years.
Another vote for Hyper-V.
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This is why KVM is a good option, or even Hyper-V for Windows hosts. The only problem with KVM Is graphical support for paravirtualized drivers is basic at best with no full 3D acceleration that I know of for Windows guests; virtio-win isn't exactly the best option graphically and QXL to my knowledge is even more lacking, but one can just pass a hardware GPU through over vfio-pci for that.
Unfortunately for Mac hosts, Apple has no KVM/Hyper-V equivalent so your best option for virtualization there is Parallels.
(and it's honestly kinda stupid that Apple can't build their own KVM equivalent into the Darwin kernel which macOS is based on)
I stupidly bought a VMWare Workstation license when I first got on the Windows 11 train. Bright eyed and bushy tailed and all that rubbish. My experience was such shit that I abandoned it all for Linux and Virtualbox.
Fuck Microsoft, fuck VMWare.
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