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They are desperate to be cool, it's so cringe.

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[–] GluWu@lemm.ee 159 points 13 hours ago (10 children)

The thing they all share is that they are deeply unloved. Trump, musk, bezos, zuck, none of them have healthy loving families. They have noons they can genuinely connect with. And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need. But it never does, so they just keep going not realizing the path they chose doesn't end anywhere near what they desire. Money will never buy love and peace.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 86 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

And they all think by having more money and being more popular will fulfill that human need.

If that was all it was, then I'd feel sorry for them. No, they're trying to fulfill that need by being Great Men of History with Mighty Plans, but their Mighty Plans are all terrible, because they're horrible people.

[–] o1011o@lemmy.world 33 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I think it's a mistake to imagine that these are good people who just need a little love. There are literally hundreds of millions of people who aren't getting enough love for proper human flourishing and it's not like that turned them all into fascists. The kind of evil exhibited by these people must be attributed to a fundamental enjoyment of the suffering of others.

[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Well statistically about 30% of people worldwide don't mind fascism so that's hundreds of millions of people too. I'm not sure I'd be willing to say a lack of loving relationships is the primary cause of that but I doubt solving that problem would hurt.

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[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.world 18 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

That's a tired stereotype. Powerful people are unloved because they don't need to be loved. They are psychopaths, they have all the love they need, they are bored with the world and have nothing more to want.

People around you are unloved because they have problems.

Also money can buy you a cottage surrounded by nice trees near a river, healthy food, more house animals than you could want, a fast PC, jasmine and lilac bushes outside your window.

I think it can go a long way.

My irritation from this stereotype is because it kinda says the opposite of what it says. It feels like sublimated envy, expressed by saying that you don't envy them. Why talk about their money at all then.

I wouldn't envy anyone's money if that's all the difference between us, unfortunately money buys power and power is used to impose one's will upon me, and that I very much care about.

But your typical young Trotskyists in the Interwebs write whole articles consisting of Marxist vibes (a strong thing, especially in spring, but not enough) and envy to those having more. LOL, someone having more money is not our problem. Our problem is someone attacking us with it.

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[–] overload@sopuli.xyz 15 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn't challenge this view for Musk, Bezos, Trump. But Zuck gives me more of a "reformed (now married) incel that comes from an otherwise normal family environment vibe". His marriage seems at least typical, likely loving etc.

His product happens to be the most harmful for democracy and I consider him equal for worst of the bunch as a result, but I think it's explained by corporate/personal greed and being out of touch with reality.

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[–] limer@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I read some books by Alice Miller that discussed some childhoods of authoritarian rulers and they were all of unloved. They had not one adult stick up for them, be their advocate or helper, during their childhood years.

Many of us as children have been unwanted or unloved by our caregivers. Most of us had at least one adult: an uncle, grandmother, teacher etc, who truly tried to help at least once.

What the monsters in history had in common is an absence of evidence of even that happening for them. And their revenge as adults was terrible.

[–] theangryseal@lemmy.world 12 points 11 hours ago

Man, I should have became an authoritarian ruler.

Instead I became isolated and I haven’t had a visitor in over a decade.

Fuck it. Vote for theangryseal!

For real though, maybe if I hadn’t ever used drugs haha. I had a lot of “friends” when I was living in that world. Might have stopped me. :p

[–] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago

No amount of money and power will ever scratch their itch

[–] db2@lemmy.world 8 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

not realizing the path they chose doesn't end anywhere near what they desire

It'll end where they deserve though. Alone, despised and empty. No amount of money or stupid blue checkmarks will ever change that.

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[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 79 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I just started reading this book about Facebook and I am amazed how little they cared about how much power they had, and how oblivious they were of it.

These are companies that rule the world, but don't know what they want with it, other than for it to generate profit

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[–] rickyrigatoni@lemm.ee 35 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

If I had as much power as them I'd at least make dogs that can speak esperanto.

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[–] hansolo@lemm.ee 76 points 16 hours ago (9 children)

Because it's so much better when they're charismatic assholes?

[–] jlow@discuss.tchncs.de 168 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

I think it's much sadder (more sad? saddest) that people fall for such absurd douche bags. If they would at least be sexy and seem smart you could understand how people could be fooled but this is just too hard to watch.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 73 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Yeah like, they have negative charisma, so it's extra baffling. I cannot imagine a world in which I'd support Donald Trump, but definitely not in this one where he routinely shits his own diaper. If he was only disgusting mentally but was a good speaker or handsome or whatever, it would make at least a little more sense

[–] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 18 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

I think they relate better to douchey, stupid people which allows them to more easily imagine themselves being rich one day.

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[–] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 15 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

So like, if instead of musk and zuckerburg, it were a 1990s George Clooney? The smug bastard....

[–] Tournesol@feddit.fr 14 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I'll hate him just as much… but damn does he look good doing it.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 36 points 15 hours ago

A charismatic tyrant at least provides SOME excuse. People aren't necessarily monsters, they are just gullible.

When you have someone as decrepit and incompetent as trump who ALSO has a visible diaper bulge at his hips and who can't speak a coherent sentence? There is no argument other than people truly choosing hate above all else.

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[–] Tournesol@feddit.fr 66 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I have been prepared for evil, for greed, for cruelty, for injustice – but I did not anticipate that the people in power would also be such huge losers.

This. This is what I feel like

[–] mPony@kbin.earth 20 points 13 hours ago

I felt like this in January when this was first published and I still feel like it today. I'm not really sure what it will take for things to change but I get the feeling that powerful and wealthy people do not want things to change.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 46 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

Musk, Zuckerberg and Bezos-- you can tell they are insecure. They became rich and powerful and now want to stomp on people.

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 43 points 8 hours ago (4 children)

Imagine if, when Facebook rolled out, people were just like "no thanks, I'm good" and it never took off.

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

I wanted to. I liked Myspace. It has character. Some of it was cringe. But you could at least customize it. Facebook seemed so bland. But I had an ex GF that insisted on it and I didn't think it was worth breaking up over. I shouldn't have been such a pushover.

[–] AllOutOfBubbleGum@lemmy.world 10 points 7 hours ago

I stayed on Myspace long past when the majority jumped ship. It eventually lost what made it special when the boy band guy bought it to twist it into something more music focused. But I still preferred it to the sterile, uniformity of Facebook.

[–] asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev 9 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

You would break up over switching online platforms?

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 9 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm assuming the GF would break up with OP over it. Which is itself a big red flag.

Edit: fwiw, it does seem like there is quite a bit of drama and bullshit over choice of phone (Android vs Apple)

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 17 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

That's exactly what happens when a Facebook competitor (possibly an ethical one) rolls out these days. Which is part of the problem. Zuck poisoned the idea.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 14 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Friendica exists, and it's part of the Fediverse. It's not going anywhere.

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I don’t know if anyone else has noticed this but everything seems to be going down the tubes quite fast.

Yeah like having to accept all cookies to read the article.

[–] Cocopanda@futurology.today 25 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

I will be happy if Zuck is Luigi’d before my death. Also Musk and Bozo.

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[–] thefartographer@lemm.ee 25 points 15 hours ago (2 children)

Huh, it's almost like people who try to destroy the world are weird and shitty. I'm mostly surprised that anyone else is surprised.

[–] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

Seriously, it's like nobody else ever had to deal with a pathological narcissist or someone with BPD before in their lives.

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[–] Skavau@lemm.ee 23 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

It is indeed pathetic how Musk, Zuckerberg and even Trump don't actually have any friends.

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[–] SaladKing@lemm.ee 21 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

No one seems to have read Machiavelli’s stuff these days. It explains so much. Also, just history in general will tell you all about today’s happenings.

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[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 20 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Why wouldn't you? Only losers seek power, and only losers could and would fuck up this badly.

[–] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 17 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Living your life to impress other men by hating women is one of the most embarrassing things I can imagine. Looking up to any of these men for how to live your life is even sadder.

I’ve worked hard to keep these kinds of men out of my personal life, to keep them away from me, out of my goddamn sight. Now they are in my face daily, not only influencing the world for the worse but making me nauseous at how uncool and pathetic they are, on top of their other sins. It’s too much, I can’t take it, there needs to be a change.

It’s time for us to start getting revenge on the nerds.

Sounds to me like they crave attention more than anything, poor insecure past-neglected angsty man-agers they are. Depopulating their various platforms and reducing their viewership would be nice. Sucks that anyone at all would feel inclined to lend them their ears and eyes when there are far better alternatives out there.

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[–] DontMakeMoreBabies@piefed.social 11 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

Little Dick Energy. That's what I think every single time I see any of these folks in the news. But apparently there are enough weird little aspirants out there that they do alright?

Fuck 90% of this species. 👍

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 20 points 12 hours ago

Most people with little dicks are decent people and aren't sadistic and evil cunts, so the little dick isn't the issue.

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[–] resipsaloquitur@lemm.ee 8 points 12 hours ago

Can’t they wear suits at least?

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