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[–] when@lemmy.world 146 points 2 days ago (4 children)

5 Democrats are cosponsors:

  • Josh Gottheimer - NJ-5
  • Jared Moskowitz - FLA-23
  • Joseph Morrell - NY-25
  • Donald Davis - NC-1
  • Laura Gillen - NY-4

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/867/all-info

[–] IcyToes@sh.itjust.works 82 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Dear lord. Why are Dems getting involved in pushing fascism?

[–] anarchiddy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 73 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There have always been liberal collaborators to fascism, this isn't new.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago

they dont care about the fascism aspect, they care that it guarantees them their seats, just like %90 of all the politicians.

[–] softcat@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 33 points 2 days ago (14 children)

When Israel started full scale genocide in Gaza, Biden started giving them more money for weapons. Genocide and fascism are the Democratic party platform now.

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[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 105 points 2 days ago (8 children)

How do you outlaw a boycott? It's not an act, it's a non-act. An absence of a purchase. How do you distinguish boycott from just not buying something you don't want or need like any other item. Are we going to be required to put so much of our purchases toward Isreal now?

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 55 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ding ding ding.

This is how they "lawfully" throw "dissidents" into the gulag.

Remember...most of what Hitler did was technically legal and above-board. Because they controlled the laws and shaped them as they saw fit.

[–] straightjorkin@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

Wrong think will be punished

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

You outlaw a boycott by using violence against those who promote the boycott. It's not even anything new. Many states have already been doing this. Not to mention recent disappearances of anti-genocide activists.

Violence in service of hegemony is almost the entire purpose of the state.

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[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 88 points 2 days ago (1 children)

This is brilliant, you could have the gestasi inspecting everyone at the checkouts at a supermarket, and if you don't buy a Sodastream cartridge, you get disappeared.

(Sodastream is an Israeli company, and used to manufacture their machines in an industrial park in an Israeli settlement on the West Bank)

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 36 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Sodastream is an Israeli company

I didn't know that. Good thing I've been boycotting their cylinders for years.

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[–] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 74 points 2 days ago (7 children)

Didn't CU rule that spending money is free speech? So isn't compelling the spending of money compelling speech? Sounds straight up unconstitutional.(as if that fucking matters these days)

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 69 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Rich people spending money is free speech.

Anti-genocide activists not spending money is terrorism.

AKA the usual.

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[–] tazeycrazy@feddit.uk 70 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

How is this to enforced. Is there to be a Israeli mandated amount of product that you would need to buy.

[–] Noite_Etion@lemmy.world 50 points 2 days ago

Vague laws can be abused easier.

[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

"Please drink a verification can"

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[–] freely1333@reddthat.com 21 points 2 days ago

You will be expected to wear your Israeli pager at all times

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[–] superkret@feddit.org 64 points 2 days ago

Oh you didn't buy a Soda Stream?
Believe it or not, straight to jail!

[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 63 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Amendment I

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because republicans care so much about laws they don't agree with.

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[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 58 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you make the 1st Amendment illegal, the rest of the Constitution cannot be far behind.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago

if? people have already been blackbagged for their speech. this is just encoding something already in effect.

[–] ScrambledEggs@lazysoci.al 54 points 2 days ago (1 children)
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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Hopefully someone makes a list of brands and companies that you aren't allowed to boycot according to usa republicans and then publishes that list online on a user friendly website. After all, without that information, people might be unknowingly breaking the law when they start a personal boycot.

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[–] Charlxmagne@lemmy.world 49 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How tf can u ban a boycott, how is that even possible let alone provable 🤦 Politics aside if I js don't like a brand that endorses or has ties to Israel would I then be subject to charges. How u trynna force people to buy from certain companies, what if I was bruk, would I be breaking the law? 🤡

[–] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 27 points 1 day ago (2 children)

This will probably be used to target protestors and organizers of political movements.

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[–] Enkrod@feddit.org 45 points 2 days ago

Fuck this shit, this is intentionally vague to be used as a cudgel

[–] feddylemmy@lemmy.world 45 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] Etterra@discuss.online 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For now. Let's see what happens when it's budget time again. They'll probably bury it in there because we live in hell.

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[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 43 points 2 days ago (2 children)

First you get people comfortable with defending genocide in another country, then they won't be so resistant when you start doing it in your own country.

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[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 42 points 2 days ago (13 children)

How do I boycott Israel in the first place? Not booking my next vacation there? Do I get 20 years in prison for that?

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

https://bdsmovement.net/Act-Now-Against-These-Companies-Profiting-From-Genocide

Whatever the legal status of officially boycotting Isreal, there's still no law against just incidentally not doing business with the companies.

Before someone says they can't avoid some of these: OK, then boycott the other ones.

Whatever sand you have to throw, throw it in the gears of genocide. Don't just do nothing.

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[–] Splenetic@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago (3 children)

It seems like theatre. How will you ever prove that I chose Burger King over McDonalds for political reasons?

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[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (12 children)

Hey big shoutout to all the Redditors and Lemmy guys who told me that we can have no restrictions on free speech because if we restrict Nazis they will restrict us if they ever gain power.

Welp, here ya go...like I told you...and many of you blocked and/or banned me for saying it. Ironic.

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[–] The_Caretaker@lemm.ee 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

How will they enforce it? Does the government send out Israeli products by mail to Americans and then arrest whomever refuses to pay for the products they didn't ask for? Ordering people to buy specific products can't be even remotely legal. Buy Tesla cars or go to jail, is what this amounts to.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Here is the bill (it's like two pages)

I'm not a lawyer so I could be reading this wrong but this law doesn't apply directly to citizens, per se.

The law that it modifies basically makes it illegal for a company to contractually require you to boycott another company that you disagree with, but one that is allied toward the US.

For example, imagine you're the CEO of ACME and you want to do business with Aperture Science, Inc. Aperture can't, as a condition of you doing business with them, restrict you from working with Israeli companies.

That all being said, I do not trust this administration will use the law for it's intended purpose and will instead use it as a club to beat people with.

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[–] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

You remember that first amendment thing we used to have here?

Yeah... neither does our government

[–] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 25 points 2 days ago

Well, if that isn't freedom of speech, I don't know what is. So much freedom, it oozes oil.

[–] RedFrank24@lemmy.world 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Is that legal? It doesn't sound legal. I'm sure they could make it illegal for US government agencies to boycott Israel because that's at least partially a foreign policy decision, but private businesses? What are they gonna do, force you to buy Israeli goods?

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[–] shawn1122@lemm.ee 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

How to hack your GDP while ordinary people suffer

  1. Private weapons manufacturers make more weapons than should ever be needed.

Why? Your country gained its wealth by becoming the world's largest weapons manufacturer, making it the greatest financial beneficiary of WW2. That manufacturing infrastructure didn't just disappear overnight.

  1. Large government subsidies to countries like Israel which aren't actually cash, rather they are purchases of these privately manufactured weapons using taxpayer dollars. These are given to Israel and other countries / entities in the world which perpetuate military conflict in order to keep feeding the machine.

There you have it. Production and consumption which keeps your GDP and GDP per capita growing without providing a meaningful benefit to humanity.

[–] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Any government that tells you what you can complain about

Is by definition a Totalerian government

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[–] peteypete420@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 day ago (2 children)

How do you enforce anti boycott, how do you force someone to spend their money?

Dont get me wrong Ill know they will try again, but wow.

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[–] RidderSport@feddit.org 20 points 2 days ago

Wait you first blame us for not having free speach, because lying about the holocaust is illegal and now you ban boycotting Israel for engaging in a de facto genocide?

[–] heyWhatsay@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Incremental steps into the police state.

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[–] aceshigh@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Can someone explain why Israel is so important to them? Aren’t these the same people who are antisemic? Additionally, how does supporting Israel make the us a Christian nation?

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 42 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For a lot of evangelicals and orthodox jews, they believe the Third Temple must be built at Temple Mount for the Messiah to return/come. Christians are a death cult and it's part of their eschatology to work towards those ends to bring about the Second Coming and the rise of New Jerusalem/Zion.

In terms of realpolitik Israel is a strategic foothold in an geographically important area rich with resources and trade routes.

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