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[–] BCOVertigo@lemmy.world 59 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

"New York Life all said they’ve never hired prompt engineers, but instead found that—to the extent better prompting skills are needed—it was an expertise that all existing employees could be trained on."

Are you telling me that the jobs invented to support a bullshit technology that lies are themselves ALSO bullshit lies?

How could this happen??

[–] Ep1cFac3pa1m@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

prompt engineer

They were paying people to fucking ask it questions? A professional Google searcher?

[–] laranis@lemmy.zip 26 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

To be fair, there are tricks to it just like there are tricks for getting better Google results. But "prompt engineering" isn't a fucking career.

It is evidence of a leadership team that is just clueless.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

exactly this - SEO (search engine optimization) is huge, just like "prompt engineering" is extremely valuable - and its quite different from SEO. I wouldnt think either is a full-time position but, but learning to effectively prompt and use LLM's is definitely a skill.

[–] taladar@sh.itjust.works 9 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

In my experience SEO is largely bullshit too and the rest is so simple you could summarize it on maybe two regular pages of paper and actually documented on pages that the search engines publish themselves (stuff like duplicate content, stable URLs, which status codes to use when,...).

[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 5 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Former SEO here.

Content management side of SEO is sort of bullshit, yes. However, I saved an entire website from complete deindexing because I was able to determine Google was rendering the page differently than a user and all Google saw was a giant blank overlay because of the way the cookie privacy was implemented. Ain’t no web developers that I know who are looking into that shit!

Also, figuring out sitewide implementation of pages and usability is big. Basically, technical SEO is a big damn deal and it can go hand in hand with general content creation.

[–] brendansimms@lemmy.world 2 points 20 hours ago

I agree on both counts - honestly, a lot of companies are probably just posting job openings (that will purposefully remain vacant) with titles like AI Prompt Engineer and SEO Specialist to help boost shareholder confidence. I think I'm just fighting against the idea that LLMs should be used like a search engine - i know you didnt suggest that but I've been reading a lot recently about 'ChatGPT lies!' when in reality people are wrongly using a pattern recognition system like its a search engine.

[–] andallthat@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

prompt engineering does require skills. It's just that, rightly or not, they are now seen by companies as foundational skills for a lot of jobs and worth investing in training for most employees (rather than hiring a team of prompt specialists).

Like if you work in certain roles you need to have good knowledge of spreadsheet software, you don't go to your company's "Excel guru".

[–] MeekerThanBeaker@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago

I'm in IT. A lot of my job is Googling the answer, but I have to know what to ask and sift through what to look for that most employees won't know.

A photographer will know what to input better than the average Joe to get a better photographic image out of ChatGPT by giving F-stops/aperture, shutter speed, ISO, lenses, bokeh/depth of field, rule of thirds, etc.

But yes... we're getting closer and closer to George Jetson's job of pushing one button and calling it a day.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

They were paying people to try to make them answer the questions correctly because getting an LLM to do what you want it to was excruciatingly difficult just a few years back (and kinda still is).
Especially when what most companies want (factual, accurate, intelligent answers to difficult tasks or questions) is not something LLMs are actually made for (slapping words together using probability in a way that makes a reader to think it might have been written by a human).

But yes. Professional google searcher, just from back in very early 2000's when there were TV quiz shows about people being given a question and trying to find the answer as fast as possible as it was an actual special skill (an sometimes it feels like it still is, judging by how often people ask stupidly simple questions on social media)

[–] uninvitedguest@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 day ago
[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Pretty sure lots of kids writing a paper for school are "prompt engineers".

[–] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 9 points 20 hours ago
[–] beejjorgensen@lemmy.sdf.org 8 points 23 hours ago