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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 139 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

They were always here.

I escaped from the south to the coasts, but I always tried to warn people how vile the worst of us were.

Nobody coukd believe it, but remember, Hitler wrote about the south as the model for Germany in mein kampf, and the nazis copied the Nuremberg Laws from Jim crow almost verbatim.

[–] Hermit_Lailoken@lemmy.world 42 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (3 children)

They also took inspiration from the Catholic Church and the inquisition. The Church did ethnic cleansing long before the Nazis.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

The also took inspiration from the Catholic Church

Not just inspiration but also direct material support.

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[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 12 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Nazi legal theorists saw the U.S. as a “pioneer” in racist legislation.

James Q. Whitman, in his book "Hitler's American Model: The United States and the Making of Nazi Race Law",

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[–] KMAMURI@lemmy.world 11 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 27 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I've lived in much of the country, and I'm not white.

There is racism everywhere.

But the South is like going from Lebanon to the deepest reaches of Taliban-controlled Afghanistan.

They're monsters, and proud of it.

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[–] hanrahan@slrpnk.net 80 points 11 hours ago (7 children)
[–] uawarebrah@sh.itjust.works 40 points 10 hours ago
[–] ContessaChaos@lemmy.world 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

She's damn sure old enough to know better. 😡

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 19 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

She was probably doing it the first time too.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 62 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (4 children)

It didn't take Trump to make this real for me.

I remember how our country treated Muslims after 9/11. I remember how we treated people with AIDS and HIV when I was little. Right now I'm watching Nazi salutes on national TV and no one's getting punched even though the room is packed with the supposed opposition, and the people who consider themselves progressive are unironically enjoying people's families inability to afford food staples.

[–] pahlimur@lemmy.world 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Progressives are becoming more radical as a response to right wing extremism.

I was raised republican and was completely caught up in their propaganda. During that time I would've let you starve to death while holding food if I was told you were part of the 'bad' group. You need to treat Republicans as the dangerous entity they are, don't bother being empathetic, they won't ever reciprocate.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 22 points 9 hours ago (6 children)

don’t bother being empathetic, they won’t ever reciprocate.

If your statement is true, then you are evidence that we need to at least leave the door open to allow people who come to their senses a path to redemption.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 19 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

You're not wrong but they have to be the ones to take the first step. If they don't want to we can't force them and we don't have time for that nonsense anymore. There should be Redemption paths but if someone's just awful that's their problem and we have to defeat them

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[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Don't forget hundreds of years of ongoing slavery and genocide.

[–] InvertedParallax@lemm.ee 12 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Or as Southerners call it "The Good Old Days".

When they say "Make America Great Again", they have a very specific time in mind.

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[–] 4grams@awful.systems 59 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

Without a doubt this is the worst part. It was an immediate and irreversible swing from being an optimist who believes in the good of people to the complete opposite. I now believe humanity is fundamentally flawed and will destroy itself.

Watched too much Star Trek as a kid I guess.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 26 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I once proudly said "when the internet is cheap and easy, everyone will have full access to all information and it will be effortlessly easy for people to stop believing falsehoods and it'll start a swing towards reason!"

I just want to hug teenage me.

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[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (3 children)

I used to think similarly. The outright hatred, apathy, hostility... its sickening.

But I stand by Mr. Rogers' message. Look for the helpers.

Humanity has always grappled with its angels and demons. No fictional evil could ever compare to the cruelty and apathy of real humans being real shit. But despite all that, humans keep trying, and have always kept trying.

This isn't the worst it's ever been. This isn't even the worst it's been here. This isn't even the worst it's been, here, in living memory.

If you know someone over the age of 60, you know someone older than the civil rights act.

Even in a life where discrimination wasn't possible so much as it was fundamental in society, John Lewis and MLK Jr. still had faith in humanity. They still believed in its potential. They still had faith in the face of all of that hatred and ignorance. Faith that a better nation and a better future could be forged in their lifetimes.

And you know what? They were right.

Even today, with all of these threats to return to a time when America was "great"... even now, this is still a better nation than the America of 1963. That is undeniable truth, and it is in large part thanks to heroes like them.

If they could believe in the potential of humanity, I think it's arrogant of us to disagree.

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[–] Captain_Buddha@lemmy.world 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

To tie star trek into an admittedly foolish level of hope: I believe there was a catastrophic war and social failing that, eventually, led to their pseudo-utopic future... right?

[–] Metz@lemmy.world 17 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Well it was WW3. Which started there in 2026. Sooo.. good news?

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[–] peregrin5@lemm.ee 58 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

"Basket of Deplorables" -- as I'm tired of repeating, Hilary was right.

[–] DrBob@lemmy.ca 53 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

She was. She was John the Baptist but wanted to be Jesus. Opinion on her was fully established so even if she was 45% positive you could never move the dial on the 6% you needed to push her over the top.

She would have been an outstanding attack dog for a fresh candidate if she could have put her ego aside and accept that it wouldn't be her.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 33 points 11 hours ago (5 children)

She was trying to follow eight years of Obama that had primed an electorate for a radical change candidate. She was not going to be that and in fact personified that her Party would unfortunately not be the one to change.

[–] Xanthobilly@lemmy.world 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

She was also a terrible candidate in the same way Kamala was, which is something people still don’t accept. They both had terrible PR and were establishment pro-corporate candidates. Those two features guaranteed they wouldn’t extend past their base. At the time Bernie was offering a populist agenda, which is what Trump used to win both times. The DNC still to this day cannot shed corporate influence enough to do what’s necessary to win.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 11 points 9 hours ago (4 children)

This is it. I never got it until I read this. Obama was a work horse president. He actually overcame the conservative ratchet system and turned the dial towards liberal. He made the ACA and it was overall decent, even Conservatives liked it. They hate Obamacare if you mention it and want it destroyed, but will not want anything to happen to the ACA.

Hillary just didn't bring this vibe. I believe she was just a republican in democrat skin that was being put forward. Kamala gave me that same vibe.

We need to hear some batshit crazy stuff. The next democratic president needs break rules using executive orders just like Trump did. Abolish Citizens United and then arrest any judge that dares rule against the order, all the way up to the SCOTUS ... it seems the president has this authority now.

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[–] jimjam5@lemmy.world 37 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Dang, looks like that one guy on the left got a “TRUMP” tat on his NECK. I’m sure he won’t have any ragrets down the road.

[–] JigglySackles@lemmy.world 21 points 11 hours ago

He's obviously not getting another turn with the communal brain cell so I don't think he'll be regretting anything.

[–] Alph4d0g@discuss.tchncs.de 27 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's about time that the progressives start pandering to the dumbass class. Promising to do all sorts of dumbass and unconstitutional things and then supporting actual progressive policy when they get into office.

If this worked for the current Manchurian dumbass candidate - progressives can surely get their deception game in order.

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[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 23 points 11 hours ago (3 children)

Maybe Reagan shouldn't have closed down the mental institutes and facilitate the stifling of access to mental health

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 17 points 10 hours ago

Looking back, I'm starting to believe it was a long-term political calculus, not just abandoning the most vulnerable in our society...

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[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 23 points 8 hours ago

I am born and raised in a small rural town in northern Nevada, and from my personal experience people have always been this level of unhinged in someway or another. With the rise of the Internet and Trump. It just became more easily accessible to talk to and listen to other unhinged individuals.

[–] archonet@lemy.lol 20 points 13 hours ago

Hell truly is other people.

[–] gigachad@sh.itjust.works 18 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 11 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Dude looks like a Mike Meyers character.

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[–] Vespair@lemm.ee 15 points 3 hours ago (2 children)

I'll never recover, personally. The way my world-view was shattered by how many not just nameless strangers, but people I actually know and interact with, are the worst sort of hateful monsters.

My world is a different place now, and I don't think I'll ever feel the same.

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[–] Remember_the_tooth@lemmy.world 14 points 12 hours ago

One of the best parts. They outed themselves.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 13 points 8 hours ago

At least you can identify them easily. Bumper stickers, license plates and hats.

[–] DogOnKeyboard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 4 hours ago (6 children)

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To be fair, when was the last time you had as much fun as this guy?

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[–] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 hours ago

they're not only awful but also so darn dense, like they never actually grew up

[–] softcat@lemmy.ca 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)
[–] kayzeekayzee@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 12 hours ago

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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

When I examine my German family tree, this is the kind of shit they fell for too. The only difference, the USA had a healthy economy before Jan 2025, while Germany was a wreck.

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