As an American so far woke has meant for us.
- due process under law
- the global trade system
- our ability to retire
Just a word of caution before you get rid of those things too
this post was submitted on 22 Apr 2025
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Pierre Poilievre says he'll end 'woke ideology' — he isn't saying what that means
(ca.news.yahoo.com)
He already said he wants to use the notwithstanding clause to forego due process.
Sure, it’s murderers or whatever now, but when have governments ever stopped there? And why can’t our justice system deal with this?
Every suspension of due process seems to have the same contours.
Pick a person that you can tell your followers is “obviously bad.”
Now, because they are so obviously bad it seems like it should be no bother at all to go prove that to a court. But your followers didn’t get into this cult for the critical thinking skills workshops.
And now you’ve got your due process loophole, everything is all nice and legalish. The followers will never find themselves caught in that loophole, no sir, they aren’t “obviously bad.” Oh a follower of the cult just got caught in the loophole, well they must have not been a real follower, they are retroactively obviously bad.
What do you mean I’m obvious bad, no I’m not?! I can prove I’m not bad, I have evidence that I said the right things, I thought the right thoughts, I hated the right people!!! When’s my day in court, I can’t believe the things they are saying about me!!!!
What do you mean get on the plane to CECOT?! I’m not a terrorist, I’m not in MS13, this is preposterous. You are only supposed to use this on people who are obviously bad…
He said he would only apply it to "multiple murderers" , then he'll define abortion as murder to apply this to anybody providing abortion services in Canada or supporting abortion. They aren't even clever with their evil plans, it's more transparent than glass.
They aren't even clever with their evil plans, it's more transparent than glass.
Trump was pretty clear what he would do, and still people voted for him. Or failed to vote against him.
- Mentioning the achievements of people without dicks or white skin.
Things that PP thinks is woke:
- Healthcare
- Women
- Public transit
- The legal system
- Indigenous people
- Taxes
Why did the Conservatives choose a child to be their leader?
Don't forget gay marriage and equal rights. They are in the party platform as things to get rid of
Things that PP thinks is woke:
Climate, the CBC, "brown" people, the poor....
Stoke the woke. For a change.
Reminder: "Woke is a slang adjective that can mean being aware of social issues, especially racial justice."
Conservatives wanting to "end woke ideology" is exactly why Canada should never vote for a Conservative government. We are so much better than PP and the Cons.
They mean basic human rights.
He sounds exactly like trump.
He is exactly like Trump.
But without the orange “charisma “.
I've noticed you can basically replace "woke" with empathy (in various forms).
I've broken a few people out of the "anti-woke" cycle by pointing this out. It tends to work best on people who would be woke themselves, if it was presented in a different light.
Oh, but he HAS said what it means.
- “diversity, equity and inclusion” (DEI) and “environmental, social and governance” (ESG) ideologies are garbage
- Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre said Wednesday he is only aware of two genders — male and female
- [when] asked whether he would ask the U.S. to recognize the gender-neutral “X” marker available on Canadian passports, Poilievre pivoted to talking about the cost of living instead
- Poilievre vows to repeal environmental assessment law to fast-track resource projects
- Poilievre told his supporters that the Liberal government had driven investment away from Canada by pursuing an agenda of "radical net-zero environmental extremism."
- Poilievre promised to use the notwithstanding clause to impose consecutive life sentences on multiple murderers. The Supreme Court of Canada ruled in 2022 that imposing consecutive life sentences violates an offender's Charter rights
- Introduced bill Defined marriage as a union between ‘one man and one women to the exclusion of all others'
- Said Indigenous Peoples needed to learn the value of hard work more than they needed compensation for residential schools
- Said wearing a niqab at a citizenship ceremony is "not in line with Canadian values."
And his actions since day one have backed this up.
Said Indigenous Peoples needed to learn the value of hard work more than they needed compensation for residential schools
He apologized as soon as he got pushback. (Assuming this is the same one you're referring to)
In a lot of ways I think that's worse: he's an asshole until he's called on it, and then he hides behind an apology. It's right up there with "just a prank bro."
Just a reminder that if he loses and quits he's entitled to a $20,000 per month pension for life.
Worth the price to keep him out of power. He'd send Canada down the route the US is going down.
Ok.. that's better than him winning or losing and not quitting
Woke is whatever scares me.
Without woke life will be like it was in the ‘50’s which is better then now.
The 50's was only better for white men. Everyone else suffered.
Even as a white man, I'll be happier living in a society where everyone else doesn't have to suffer.
None of us are free until all of us are free
“the true measure of any society can be found in how it treats its most vulnerable members.”
I don't think it's about fear. I think it's about seething hatred and resentment. They have been made to feel stupid, intolerant, backwards, racist, etc. and Trump and the right wing billionaire owned corporate media have told them that they are right to be angry and resentful and definitely shouldn't try to better themselves in order to manipulate them into voting for fascism against their own self-interest and the interests of their wives and daughters and the country.
You mean back when the disabled were 'warehoused' in institutions, out-of-sight out-of-mind?
Is THAT your idea of 'better'?
He's going to rid society of an awareness of societal issues?
So he's running on Danielle Smith's and Ron DeSantis' (Trump Lite) platform still.
Exactly.
We have to many trump supporters where i live. The cons will win with a 90% support in our region. Maybe it will go down to 85% but unlikely.
It's going to be closer where I live than it has been in a long time but I think the Conservative will likely win. I'm still voting to show my displeasure with the Trumpist bullshit and in the hopes that enough people join me to swing the seat.
Fascism is unfortunately contagious, and remarkably few seem immune.
Gosh, I don't envy where you live; my condolences. Maybe your vote tells real parties working for everyday Canadians in the area not to give up on their efforts in deep blue territory
Oh, we dont even have a real run up here. None of the parties are wasting their time in our region.
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Are you old enough to remember the movie 'Dumb and Dumber'? it was a hit in America. Seems Americans wanted to be just like them. The dumber everyone got, the more brilliant they seemed to be.
A lot of Conservatives in Canada seem to think the same way. 'Dumb is good, Dumber is even better'. And when you get REALLY dumb, you will be just as brilliant as the Americans.
The support for the Conservatives is at a twenty year near-all-time-high, at 38%. At that level, they have pretty much all the support they will ever get. Their recent 44% polling was not because the population liked the Conservative platform, but because they really disliked Trudeau. Canadians did not want to vote for the Conservatives, but they did not want to vote for Trudeau even more. Once he left, the dislike went with him. The Conservatives have completely taped out the population that their ideology appeals to. The meter just does not go higher than that for them. Unfortunately, the intelligent Canadians have all gotten their act together and have consolidated their support for the Liberals, now that they have a leader that has political traction, all but swamping the Conservatives in seats.
Yet here is PP, thinking that he can convince even MORE Canadians to support him, by being even MORE of what they obviously do not want. 62% of Canadians never liked what he said before, why does he think saying it louder will convince them to like it?
My concern with this trend is that without proportional representation, it will eventually metastasize into an American style two party system as the left is forced into ABC voting every election.
What do you mean, eventually? Outside of Québec with the Bloc, Canada is already for all-intents-and-purposes a two-party system. Most people I know more closely align with NDP or Green platforms. Most people I know still vote Liberal.
It continuously astounds me that the NDP and Greens don't make more noise about electoral reform.
The last term was an excellent example of it not quite being two party, with the NDP pushing a liberal minority for some significant gains. It's not nearly as good or democratic as it could have been, but I think it's important for us to remember what ground we do still have. This election could be an opportunity to galvanized support for proportional representation with so many people voting liberal out of perceived necessity.
It continuously astounds me than the NDP and Greens don't make more noise about electoral reform.
Agreed, but that just means we have to. Democracy is strongest when we're engaged in more than just elections. Check out https://www.fairvote.ca/ to get involved.
If Carney gets a clear majority, with close to 50% of the popular vote for the Liberals, PP and Jagmeet will be gone. Any attempt at proportional representation will probably have to be a unilateral process driven almost entirely by the Liberals. The Cons and the NDP will be too demanding of concessions to jurry rig the system entirely in their favor.
Lack of education, and critical thinking, in the U.S. has been a HUGE problem for decades. More than half of people living in the United States between the ages of 16 and 74 read below a sixth-grade level. This is confirmed by Snopes. Trump is now attacking the universities. You can’t make educated decisions when you can’t read. Don’t let this happen in Canada!
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Electing that shit ain't goin' so well for us down south here. Canada, don't let us down and make the same dumbass mistake.
Since when is 'waking up to social injustice' an 'ideology'? I though tit was 'becoming civilized'.
it 'means' literally taking a photocopy of donvict's playbook, converting to metric and translating to french where appropriate, and running with it.
Losing election? There’s an unfortunately solid chance this goof wins. Prepare yourself cause there’s a fucky feeling in the air.
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