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[–] Undaunted@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Unfortunately, the switch from YouTube to PeerTube has not worked for me so far. I can't find a decent instance (not full of right-wing/conspiracy content) with interesting stuff that also allows me to make an account.

Yes finding the right instance on peertube is a nightmare — and also the general lack of quality content, or subtitling, which makes it as good as useless for deaf people like me.

[–] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

For the avid readers out there, bookwyrm is a fantastic alternative to goodreads.

https://joinbookwyrm.com/

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes it’s excellent! Also noting for those that aren’t aware: Goodreads is owned by Amazon.

[–] bigchunga@feddit.online 1 points 2 months ago

Is there a way to automatically add books to it when a book in my Calibre Library gets marked as completed?

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (4 children)

Signal isn't federated ^[1][2][3.1]^; it's decentralized ^[1][2][3.2]^. Though, for all practical purposes, I would generally argue that it's centralized.

References

  1. Signal-Server. signalapp. Github. Published: 2025-01-31T15:34:14.000Z. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:24Z. https://github.com/signalapp/Signal-Server.
    • This is the source code for the server that Signal uses.
  2. "Signal (software)". Wikipedia. Published: 2025-01-06T09:34Z. Accessed: 2025-02-1T09:30Z. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Signal_(software).
    • ¶"Architecture". ¶"Servers".

      Signal relies on centralized servers that are maintained by Signal Messenger. In addition to routing Signal's messages, the servers also facilitate the discovery of contacts who are also registered Signal users and the automatic exchange of users' public keys. […]

  3. "Reflections: The ecosystem is moving". moxie0. Signal Blog. Published: 2016-05-10. Accessed: 2025-02-01T09:40Z. https://signal.org/blog/the-ecosystem-is-moving/.
    1. ¶5. to ¶"Stuck in time". ¶3-6

      One of the controversial things we did with Signal early on was to build it as an unfederated service. Nothing about any of the protocols we’ve developed requires centralization; it’s entirely possible to build a federated Signal Protocol-based messenger, but I no longer believe that it is possible to build a competitive federated messenger at all. […] [interoperable protocols] [have] taken us pretty far, but it’s undeniable that once you federate your protocol, it becomes very difficult to make changes. And right now, at the application level, things that stand still don’t fare very well in a world where the ecosystem is moving. […] Early on, I thought we’d federate Signal once its velocity had subsided. Now I realize that things will probably never slow down, and if anything the velocity of the entire landscape seems to be steadily increasing.

    2. ¶"Stuck in time". "Federation and control". ¶6.

      An open source infrastructure for a centralized network now provides almost the same level of control as federated protocols, without giving up the ability to adapt. If a centralized provider with an open source infrastructure ever makes horrible changes, those that disagree have the software they need to run their own alternative instead. It may not be as beautiful as federation, but at this point it seems that it will have to do.

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Yeah. I love Signal but it doesn't belong in that list. Dansup (creator of loops and pixelfed) is apparently working on "Sup" that will be a decentralized alternative to whatsapp.

[–] punkisundead@slrpnk.net 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

To me this person sounds like they have too many big projects at once. I wish them success tho

[–] Lazycog@sopuli.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

Yeah.. I'm bit afraid of "kbin Ernest Effect" (not sure what a proper term is) where personal issues pile up and the sole head developer just disappears.

Haven't followed dansup much but from what I understand he is much more open to pull requests and listening to the community, but time will tell. Right now I appreciate and love his effort, giving, and the impact on fediverse he is brining.

The kickstarter was a good idea.

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[–] qwerty@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Bro put citations in his lemmy comment 💀

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I wish more people did that ngl 💀

[–] apex32@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

I wish Boost understood the collapsible spoilers.

On my client, it's all expanded and I see all the formatting characters. It looks/works great in a browser though.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Don't let perfect be the enemy of good

[–] Kalcifer@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago

My comment wasn't protesting the use of Signal; it was rather clarifying the misinformation in OP's post — ie misinformation that Signal is a federated service.

but I no longer believe that it is possible to build a competitive federated messenger at all.

The fact that we have a telephone system that works with separate providers contradicts this sentiment. If I want to pick up the phone and talk to my cousin's puppy in New Zealand, I can do that without creating an account on his provider's service.

I don't understand why we've forgotten this as a society. Yes, it was difficult to upgrade the phone systems over the past century, but it's worth it in my opinion. I really wish we'd start seeing government regulation that says "you should be able to talk to someone on a service without having to create an account on said service." I thought the DMA would do this, but sadly, Whatsapp still requires an account to talk to people using that service. Very disappointing.

[–] Matombo@feddit.org 3 points 9 months ago (5 children)

Signal is not Fediverse! Element/Matrix is!

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[–] ekZepp@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago (2 children)
[–] NickwithaC@lemmy.world 2 points 9 months ago

Don't worry, your successor isn't offering anything big. You'll still be around for many more days to come.

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 months ago

I don’t get the joke

[–] PixelPilgrim@lemmings.world 1 points 9 months ago

as i say peertube is currently a alt to twitch as well as youtube

[–] teri@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I support the cause in general but: Signal is not federated at all. It may seem like a decent alternative to WhatsApp but is it really? It still falls under the same US jurisdiction. Let's say the US gov starts agressively prosecuting dissidents and certain minorities (they already do): can and should we still use signal in this case? I don't think so. Sadly i can't name a much better alternative. Maybe matrix. But it has other issues.

[–] Bazoogle@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

Signal is open source. They absolutely do always comply with US warrants. They have never provided any information to US law enforcement, because they can't access it. They literally have no way of accessing the information contained inside the texts. The most they could provide is metadata, but they currently aren't collecting that. I also think if they started, it would not work well for their user base. You can see all their requests for information, and the responses they gave, here: https://signal.org/bigbrother/

[–] iwasnormalonce@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can anyone send me a link to the android version of loops.video, I can't see it on the play store

[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] iwasnormalonce@lemm.ee 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've never downloaded anything from GitHub before. How does it work? Do I need to manually update the app when a new version comes out?

[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

We have Obtainium for that. Install it from the universal apk on their site, then add https://github.com/joinloops/loops-app/releases as a source and Obtainium will handle the updates for you.

[–] iwasnormalonce@lemm.ee 1 points 8 months ago

Okay I'll give that a crack, thank you

[–] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 1 points 9 months ago

A federated social fitness app(like Strava) would be cool

[–] hmmm@sh.itjust.works 1 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Unpopular Opinion Lemmy and PeerTube logo look ugly.

[–] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 2 points 9 months ago

I think it's just the colours for the peertube one. I like that it's three individual play icons to signify the federation aspect, but the colours are just dull.

[–] Padit@feddit.org 1 points 9 months ago

Unpopular opinion: your opinion is not unpopular at all.

[–] WalrusDragonOnABike@reddthat.com 0 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Feel like Matrix or Email would have made more sense as a federated service for communication, but get Signal is a lot more well known.

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[–] potentiallynotfelix@lemmy.fish 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Signal is centralized, loops is closed source and not accepting new users.

[–] Esmoreit@lemmings.world 0 points 9 months ago

Loops will be open sourced later they say.

Is Loops open source? It will be! We plan on open sourcing the platform after it reaches a stable and easy to maintain state.

[–] Jake_Farm@sopuli.xyz 0 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What does signal have to do with anything?

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 9 months ago

The post is really about abandoning the tech oligarchy more than specifically using federated technology.

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