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[–] sigmabot@crazypeople.online 283 points 2 months ago (9 children)

big bang theory is about what dumb people think smart people are like.

[–] sqw@lemmy.sdf.org 38 points 2 months ago (7 children)
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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 months ago

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[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 131 points 2 months ago (8 children)

The Big Bang Theory was frustratingly bad.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 149 points 2 months ago (10 children)

Saw a critic call it, “Nerd blackface”

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 55 points 2 months ago

IT crowd is about nerds for nerds. Big Bang theory is about nerds for non nerds. "Nerd blackface" is more succinct though.

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[–] HornedMeatBeast@lemmy.world 50 points 2 months ago (8 children)

I saw some clips on YT where they removed the laugh track.

It's really hard to find the show funny when they take out the bit where it tells you when to laugh.

[–] Cruxifux@feddit.nl 34 points 2 months ago

I hate laugh tracks.

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[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (4 children)

It got so popular, had occasional Star Trek references, even a cameo by Leonard Nimoy, and I still couldn't get myself to enjoy it. It's such a a shame.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (1 children)
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[–] OpenStars@piefed.social 108 points 2 months ago (13 children)
[–] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

This changes my perspective on the entire show... I'm going to have to watch it again for the 152nd time with this in mind now.

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[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 90 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Because, similar to blackface in its time, people love to point and laugh at exaggerated caricatures of something different from themselves.

And CBS airs lowest common denominator garbage that the masses devour.

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[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 68 points 2 months ago (12 children)

Except for that one transphobic episode that Graham Linehan has ruined his whole life over instead of going "Yeah, I'm sorry, that was a bit insensitive."

[–] TheTechnician27@lemmy.world 126 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

EDIT: since I don't want the top reply not to mention this, fuck IT Crowd creator Graham Linehan for the incalculable damage he's done to innocent trans people. He's a worthless, disgusting bigot.


Honestly, I always found that episode... Weirdly progressive? Even maybe by accident? Consider the following:

  • The trans woman April is legitimately physically attractive and with a distinctly feminine voice to match.
  • She's a legitimately very sweet, intelligent, and earnest person.
  • She tells Douglas upfront in no uncertain terms that she's trans (she phrases this as "I used to be a man", but honestly, considering both 2008 and the fact it was used to setup a joke, I think this isn't too transphobic? A trans person in 2008 might've even said this because there was less of a support network to understand that you always were a woman.)
  • Douglas gets upset because he thinks he's been tricked, but 1) he absolutely was not, and the episode makes this crystal clear that it's because April made every effort and he's just an absolute dumbass, and 2) Douglas has been portrayed in the show to this point as nothing but a juvenile, overdramatic, chauvanistic sack of shit, and we're clearly not supposed to be rooting for him.
  • She's a fantastic girlfriend and becomes the love of his life. A big part of this is because she has a duality between traditional femininity and an interest in traditionally masculine activities, but I also don't think this is terrible representation? I have a trans woman friend who carries herself in a traditionally feminine way but hasn't dropped more traditionally masculine activities that she grew up enjoying.
  • She throws the first hit at the end, but this is after Douglas dumps her on the spot after they've hit it off, had sex, and confessed their love for each other because he was too stupid to listen, he tells her to get lost, he basically calls her gross to her face by talking in a disgusted tone about "that operation you had", and flat-out denies her existence as a woman.
  • It's made very evident that if Douglas weren't transphobic, he could've lived the rest of his life with a woman who's established to be literally perfect for him.
[–] pennomi@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago

100% agree. It paints trans women favorably and makes Douglas the asshole like he deserves.

[–] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's kind of a Death of the Author moment. Ignore Glinner being a transphobic ogre and it's actually quite good.

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[–] CaptDust@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Linehan has become much worse since that controversy, he's been on a proper trans hate crusade since like 2019. It wasn't about being insensitive, he's completely deranged and the episode was just an early slip.

[–] vaguerant@fedia.io 27 points 2 months ago

Absolutely. I can't know what has gone wrong inside him, but even if this particular brainworm was eating him up 20 years ago, he could have just said something vaguely apologetic and let it blow over. Instead, he decided a trans hate crusade was more important than his family or his career.

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[–] Philharmonic3@lemmy.world 61 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If I had to rate the IT crowd out of ten, I'd give it 01189998819991197253

[–] Senseless@feddit.org 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)
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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 61 points 2 months ago (7 children)

It’s cuz they work as a team. An IT team. Team, team, team. Team players, each and every one.

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[–] MehBlah@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

The big bang theory was not for geeks or nerds. It was pure shit.

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[–] PattyMcB@lemmy.world 58 points 2 months ago (3 children)

No... the IT crowd is a sitcom FOR geeks. That other shit just makes fun of us

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[–] squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de 53 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Yes

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[–] gaterush@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago

To whom it may concern... No too formal

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[–] RizzoTheSmall@lemm.ee 52 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If you think otherwise, you're head disabled.

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[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 49 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I watched one random episode of BBT after it was recommended to me by a few people. That one episode was enough for me to decide that I never want to see that show again, and also that I should disregard all recommendations from the people who said I should watch it.

[–] jonesey71@lemmus.org 30 points 2 months ago (6 children)

I watched a scene where someone posted it without the laugh track and it was super cringey. Semi-related note.. Taking the laugh track out of BBT ruins it, but taking Garfield out of Garfield comics takes it to a new level, see here -> https://garfieldminusgarfield.net/

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[–] mlg@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago (8 children)

No no IT Crowd is a show about sysadmins, not geeks lol. There's a very clear difference.

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[–] EtherWhack@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I've always saw BBT as just a way to re-normalize making fun of neurodivergant people.

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[–] MY_ANUS_IS_BLEEDING@lemm.ee 37 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If BBT was made today it would be accused of being written by AI. Fully flanderised characters, and endless filler episodes.

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[–] CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 2 months ago (7 children)
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[–] dink@lemmy.world 32 points 2 months ago (13 children)

IT Crowd S02E01 is probably the funniest episode of any sitcom I’ve seen

[–] dumbass@leminal.space 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (5 children)

The second episode of season 2 has the greatest introduction to a new character ever. You meet Matt Berry at his most Matt Berryist!

FAAAAAAAAAAAATHEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRR!

Edit: Here's the scene for anyone who hasn't seen it or just wants to enjoy it again, slight spoilers but it won't ruin the first season.

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[–] negativenull@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)
[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 31 points 2 months ago (7 children)

In my mind, I still picture this as the archetype of an office's boss inside a boss's office. If it doesn't have the 4th breaking wall picture, then it's a fake boss

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[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (13 children)

British humour is infinitely funnier than the laugh track pandering American sitcoms.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8k2AbqTBxao

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[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Community, IT Crowd, Arrested Development, 30 Rock, Scrubs... The 00's had a lot of great sitcoms. We didn't know how good we had it.

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