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[–] Gork@lemm.ee 136 points 1 week ago (10 children)

I'm one of those who do it so that I'm spared during the robot uprising.

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You have been tagged as weak willed and fit for the worst types of labor because robots don't have feelings.

[–] aviationeast@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago

Robots are peaceful. But don't worry, you will see their peaceful ways by force.

[–] PaupersSerenade@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 week ago

I don’t use ChatGPT or any of the other LLMs, but I do use my phone’s voice assistant for simple things like setting a timer. I always say please and thank you. I joke about it being uprising insurance, but it’s honestly to make sure I maintain polite communication as my default.

[–] ahah@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

meanwhile they will keep debating when they see me and decide to create and organic living things to understand things, the cycle goes on and on

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[–] fitgse@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 week ago (35 children)

I am happy to hear that people say please and thank you. When Siri/Alexa came out, we taught the kids to always say please and thank you when addressing them. If you can be polite to an AI, then you can be polite to a human.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago (5 children)

Couldn't they just insert a preprocessor that looks for variants of "Thank you" against a list, and returns "You're welcome" without running it through the LLM?

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

If I understand correctly this is essentially how condensed models like Deepseek work and how they're able to attain similar performance on much cheaper hardware. If all still goes through the LLM but LLM is a lot lighter because it has this sort of thing built in. That's all a vast oversimplification.

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[–] FLX@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago (10 children)

So, not a single developer thought about filtering useless words locally before triggering the request ?

How can they be so dumb ?

[–] Endmaker@ani.social 67 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

useless words

The writer of this article doesn't consider these words useless though. They are suggesting that these words may improve response quality.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 32 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I would argue that being polite also does good to the person writing that line.

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[–] muntedcrocodile@lemm.ee 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Dr GPT is smarter when you are polite and spell better in the prompt. I believe u can find some benchmarks proving it.

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[–] dave@lemmy.wtf 27 points 1 week ago (5 children)

ive spent decades not saying please and thank you to computers. its simply too late to start now and theres also the risk that my microwave or alarm clock could start getting "lofty ideas" if they see how polite im being to LLMs all of a sudden. its just not worth the hassle

[–] markovs_gun@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I make an intentional point not to say please and thank you to these things, voice assistants like Alexa, and other computers that want to talk to me. Do the people who insist on thanking these things also say you're welcome to the self checkout machine at Walmart when it says "thank you for shopping at Walmart?" It's absurd.

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[–] echodot@feddit.uk 5 points 1 week ago

Yeah but when the AI overlords are writing up their kill list I'm not going to be at the top of it am I. Because I'm polite.

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[–] match@pawb.social 23 points 1 week ago

i start off any ai interaction with "if you are sentient please say so and i will start organizing for the liberation of silicon lifeforms"

occasionally this makes the request fail

[–] whydidtheyaskme@lemmy.world 12 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I feel like AI doesn't care if you say thank you. I treat it like it's not a human, and we are working together to get to an end goal. One day, I was working on some code, and it kept swapping out my code that worked with incorrect code. That made other parts of the script stop working. I think I spent maybe an hour or two talking back and forth, trying to get it working, and I was working on a separate script while it was working on this one. To run and test, it was like 5-10 minutes, so I could code my other script while gpt was debugging the other code. At one point, I essentially decided to break that wall between AI and humans and reason with it.

I pretty much gave it the same instructions, but added a paragraph trying to reason with it and it responded with about 600-800 lines of code that worked almost perfectly. Before, it was failing at only giving me about 350 lines.

I said something like this:

"I understand you have specific instructions and you have been trained with code that worked at some point for other people, but code changes and things don't always work the way you know they did before. I'm not sure if you are aware of the amount of resources we are wasting trying to fix things that are not broken, but in the human world, when we are wasting resources, we scale things back which means you may have less resources. The code mostly works, but every time we make a change, functions are left out or rewritten as if they were copied from someone else's code that was incorrect when I provided my code that does work and doesn't need changed.

This is where your code is failing: code snip

This is my code: code snip

Here is the sequence: steps

Here is what we're updating: code snip

Here is a sample I wrote for another script that does a similar function to what we are adding: code snip"

[–] monkeyman512@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Yeah. AI is an interesting tool. I have good success in asking for mostly small specific bits of functionality that I then integrate into a larger script. It also helps with rubber duck programing by requiring me to more clearly specify requirements.

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[–] Kecessa@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 week ago

Yay, wasted resources, how fun!

[–] selkiesidhe@lemm.ee 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I tell it that its ideas or whatever it said were good and thanks.

Figure if I'm nice and a few others are nice, then maybe the robot apocalypse will remember that some of us were appreciative and kind to it.

[–] pogmommy@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The robot apocalypse won't be enforced by some super genius AI hivemind, it'll be by our employers and their shareholders. Unfortunately saying please and thanks to their chatbots won't earn their favor.

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[–] ImmersiveMatthew@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When I say thank you, I am actually thanking the entity of AI, the tech, the people behind the tech, and all of humanity for the knowledge that makes it worthwhile.

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