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[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 358 points 1 week ago (33 children)

If Harris was a leader she would be out there touring like AOC. Shes not a leader. She had her shot to prove otherwise and didn't.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 110 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I mean, if I were her I’d feel drained and devastated. Everything that happened during the election and people still picked Trump over her…

[–] MegaUltraChicken@lemmy.world 174 points 1 week ago (8 children)

I have a hard time feeling sorry for her after leaving the left hanging and going after conservative votes. She made an incredibly poor strategic choice and it cost all of us.

Obviously she's not the only one to blame here, conservatives deserving the majority of blame followed by people that stayed home, but she doesn't deserve pity.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. I have a lot of problems with Kamala The Cop. But she lost what might be the final election in American History. That takes a lot out of you

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[–] al_Kaholic@lemmynsfw.com 30 points 1 week ago

Drained and devastated but willing to lose again? Spray this turd down the drain of your empathy and out of a leadership roll.

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[–] mystik@lemmy.world 202 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (20 children)

Only a shock to folks who still think Democrat centerists are what's gonna win the votes

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 100 points 1 week ago (2 children)

"We want to maintain the status quo that led to the election of Trump twice!"

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[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 198 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I'm shocked that Harris is in first place...

[–] Liberteez@lemm.ee 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I used to be shocked Biden was #1 in 2019. Turns out, name recognition matters more than anything else, and Harris had a historic campaign budget. (Not that it was used well, but AOC has never had that level of PR)

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 37 points 1 week ago (18 children)

Not so sure about that, I knew who Cortez was years before I recognized Harris and I'm not in either of their districts.

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[–] dukeofdummies@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago

I'm not,

I'm genuinely skeptical that most polls are an accurate sampling of the population. Most people I know would never sit through a phone poll. Most polls reek of phishing. One of the very first phone polls said that Dewy would beat Truman in a landslide. It was completely wrong because it was predominantly rich people who had the phones to even answer the polls.

Who has the time for polls? Who drops by the candidate booths at the state fair? It's a type for sure.

The only poll I have been a part of all last year was a phone poll entirely about optometrists and eye appointments and how they should be handled in the healthcare system. I couldn't even finish it because the entire things was just... painful to go through.

[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 28 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Current DNC leadership might push Hillary for 2028

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[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 178 points 1 week ago (17 children)

The fact that Kamala is even going to try to run again shows how fucked that party is.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (4 children)

The fact that's she's leading in the polls is fucking crazy

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 31 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The worse the republicans screw up, the more the Democrats are convinced they don't need to change. I don't think Kamala is going to end up on the ticket. I think the democratic establishment is going to push Gavin Newsom and Rahm Emanuel or something dumb like that.

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[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 28 points 1 week ago

I know it's fucking ridiculous. She didn't get people to the polls last time against Trump... if she can't get people to vote against him she can't get people to vote at all.

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[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 117 points 1 week ago (24 children)

Why is Harris even mentioned? She should disappear like Hillary.

Nobody wants this person to run again.

[–] Zak@lemmy.world 49 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Anyone doing a poll would be negligent not to include the previous nominee and former vice president. That's not to imply she's a good choice, only that she's an obvious choice.

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[–] Wilco@lemm.ee 91 points 1 week ago (8 children)

The democratic party is cooked if it runs Kamala again. There is no way Kamala is running this high in the polls.

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[–] Clinicallydepressedpoochie@lemmy.world 88 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

Why on earth would you run kamala again? The democrats can't afford to learn anymore lessons. School is out. Time to start producing.

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[–] HalfSalesman@lemm.ee 78 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (8 children)

Second place to Harris??? Holy fuck we deserve our fate.

Edit: upon reading the article (I know...) AOC has the best net favorability. So a little more hopium there.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 73 points 1 week ago

Jfc here we fuckin go again. Lemme guess DNC, this will totally be an open primary right? Anyone can win?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 66 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Fucking morons never learn.

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[–] meep_launcher@lemm.ee 58 points 1 week ago

Welcome to American politics, when the 2028 election begins in 2024 and the 2028 primary began in 2020.

I'm so tired.

[–] Ileftreddit@lemmy.world 57 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Running Harris was a mistake in 2024 and it would be a mistake if it happens in 2028

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[–] kibiz0r@midwest.social 46 points 1 week ago

No deets on methodology. “Of Democrats”. How many? Where? Registered Dems? Likely voters? 2024 voters?

It matters greatly. In the primaries, Obama was invisible to pollsters that were only looking at prior Dem voters. His support came mostly from first-timers and independents.

[–] TempermentalAnomaly@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who the fuck is thinking about 2028?!? I'm just trying to get out of 2024 alive.

[–] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 52 points 1 week ago (8 children)
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[–] AnguishedNarwhal@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I hope we actually get a 2028 election

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[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 43 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I'd vote for AOC over Kamala, 100%.

I mean, I still voted for Kamala, but I wasn't excited about it.

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[–] clutchtwopointzero@lemmy.world 40 points 1 week ago (3 children)

What shock? AOC is the only one in that party with clear positioning

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[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You guys still think there will be free elections in 2028?

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[–] NovaOG@lemm.ee 34 points 1 week ago (19 children)

Why does the Democratic party have a hard on for running failed politicians? Kamala lost, let others step up. AOC would do great in the Dem Primaries

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[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 week ago (3 children)

I will be shocked if the Dem establishment doesn't run Newsom and do their damndest to ratfuck AOC like they did with Bernie.

Sure, there's a lot of time between now and a theoretical 2028 presidential cycle...

But I have learned to set expectations pessimistically and be surprised in the optimism direction, not the other way around.

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[–] MellowYellow13@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago

Fuck Harris, we have no more time for right wing "liberals." She needs to get the fuck out of the way and progressives need to take charge

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 33 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 32 points 1 week ago

If only your drmocrat handlers let you vote for who you want and not for who they choose.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

At this early stage when there isn't an obvious choice (like an incumbent or VP), this is really a measure of name recognition more than anything.

I don't know what the field is going to look like when the primaries roll around, but I highly doubt that Kamala will make it anywhere near the nomination again. She had her chance, she's extremely unlikely to get another one. The last time a Democrat got the nomination a second time after a loss was Adlai Stevenson in 1956, and he only got it because most of the other possible candidates stayed out of the race because they expected Eisenhower to win in a landslide.

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[–] futatorius@lemm.ee 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A poll looking 3 years ahead is about as accurate as an astrological chart (and just to be clear, those are worthless).

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[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 week ago (2 children)

We're 2.5-3 years away from the primary race even starting, and 3+ years away from the convention. This poll means absolutely nothing at this point.

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Cory Booker talked all that time for nothing

[–] simplejack@lemmy.world 34 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I’ll take it over the other folks on Capitol Hill that are doing absolutely nothing. People need to make noise.

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