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Summary

China has shrugged off the latest U.S. tariff hike, dismissing the Trump administration's threats as a "meaningless tariff numbers game."

Donald Trump's move to impose tariffs "wiped trillions of dollars off Wall Street" and raised duties on foreign goods, claiming to bring back U.S. manufacturing jobs.

A White House fact sheet announced tariffs on some Chinese imports would rise to 245%.

China’s Commerce Ministry said the move "fully exposes the fact that the United States has become irrational" and vowed to see the trade war "through to the very end."

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[–] grandma@sh.itjust.works 114 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] tanisnikana@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The AI slop machine got Trump’s name right, but whiffed entirely on the author of the book.

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[–] notsure@fedia.io 72 points 1 week ago (11 children)

...how anyone in the US sees this as positive is beyond my ability for faith and reason...

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 63 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That elected a 34 times convicted felon. I'm not sure why anyone is surprised anymore.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 29 points 1 week ago

...they shouldn't be, this has been plotted and planned and WRITTEN down in project 2025...

[–] match@pawb.social 13 points 1 week ago

the trump voters largely do not want positive, they want big negatives for everyone else and are willing to accept negatives for themselves to get it

[–] crank0271@lemmy.world 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What makes you think that they do? I imagine the biggest beneficiaries of this whole thing is a somewhat longer runway until Russian and Chinese demographic collapse.

[–] chaosCruiser@futurology.today 10 points 1 week ago

Just the other day I saw a quick street interview on TV. In it, there was a barbershop owner who is also a Trump supporter, and she said that America will endure these difficulties. I got some serious sunk cost fallacy vibes from that interview.

[–] in4apenny@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 week ago

Because when the masses are robbed of a stable living and basic dignity, and when faith in institutions collapse in a society that puts everything on faith in institutions, coupled with an education system that isn't built for intelligence and critical thinking but instead for indoctrination and farming obedient workers, people become desperate for "something else" or "anything else." Because it's inhuman and unnatural for homosapiens to live under those conditions, and it's a desperate situation because these people are desperate, and the people at large have lost a sense of higher purpose (be it God or Country, I personally think we need to return our worship and devotion to Mother Nature.)

I too have challenged faith and reason given the current state of affairs, but I have faith in Mother Nature to return balance to the relations we've disturbed, and cut arrogant humans, who think they're somehow above or seperate from nature, down to size. Like a deer or insect or algae that dominate a given area and upsets the balance, Mother Nature demands balance and harmony between relations and suffering is caused when those relations are disturbed. What gives me faith is the knowledge that all these politicians and their big fancy buildings could magically vanish today, and would go unnoticed as society keeps plodding along - as it's us who grow and distribute the food, it's us who drive the trucks and move the goods, it's us who live on our land, it's us who strive for and gift a sense of belonging to one another, it's us who repairs things when they're broken and it's us who rebuild when things get destroyed. We are only intelligent or special creatures in that we exist to maintain Natures relations, and like every other creature we exist to survive. We don't want to assume coersive power or overthrow our government, we want coersive power to be destroyed.

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[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 69 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump has already lost this war. The war he started because he's stupid as fuck. He's going to die before he sees the results of the chaos he reigns.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Have you seen him recently? Sometimes he neglects the orange deck stain, and his skin is grey and ghoulish. I swear if he didn't have some necromancer keeping him alive, he'd have died 20 years ago.

[–] generichate1546@lemmynsfw.com 26 points 1 week ago (3 children)

But but but the DR said he's perfectly healthy due to all the strenuous golf we're paying him to play

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 12 points 1 week ago

It also said he's 6'3" and 224 lbs. I'm calling BS on both of those.

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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Trump is going to loose this trade war in 6 months or less.

We at about to have Covid level disruptions to our supply chain. Over 80 cargo vessels have canceled sailings. Think about the amount of goods we are not going to get in 3 weeks time. Yeah China will loose money and will be hurt by the trade war but they can find other markets.

The USA is going to have epic supply chain disruptions. We wont have consumer goods or components for manufacturing within 6 weeks. It’s going to be a shit show unless Trump backs down.

https://www.asiafinancial.com/transpacific-cargo-trade-decimated-by-trumps-tariff-war

[–] ksigley@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago
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[–] yarr@feddit.nl 57 points 1 week ago (1 children)

China can live without us. We can't live without them. Go into a Chinese house and remove all the items made in the USA. Now try that in an American house and tell me what's left.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If Americans see one empty shelf, there will be weeping and panicking in the streets.

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[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 44 points 1 week ago (7 children)

What are americans going to do? Stop buying Chinese crap?

Once amazon warehouses are empty the tariffs are gonna be „paused”. In trumps own words „he has no cards”.

[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

There's two ways this works out.

  1. Trump's regime doubles down, never backs out and holds firm.

Basically, you're fucked. Chinese goods stop flowing, medical devices and equipment stop coming, tools and utilities stop being restocked. You're on your own. Welcome to Thunderdome.

  1. Trump's regime keeps this going until the backlash forces them to give it up.

Then we capitulate to China, end up paying more overall but not an impossibly high figure for our items and life goes on... only a little less swimmingly.

My bet is on #1. Stock up on ammo and food, road warrior.

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

What a weird timeline that we are rooting for China on this.

[–] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 week ago

I am rooting for free trade. It's stupid and inefficient for every country to try to manufacture the same goods.

[–] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 36 points 1 week ago (2 children)

They know he’s full of shit and even if he foolishly proceeds he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades, lol. The only question is whether they do a military coup to retain power.

[–] TheRealKuni@midwest.social 44 points 1 week ago (3 children)

he will destroy the Republican Party’s electoral prospects for decades

Nonsense. Go spend some time on The Federalist, or the New York Post,or r/Conservative, or their pitiful “satire” site The Babylon Bee. They don’t live in reality. The real world is completely irrelevant to them. They could lose everything because of Trump and still think that their woes are the fault of woke Marxist liberals (an oxymoron, I know, but they don’t).

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

The diehards are not persuadable but not everyone in this country -- or even a majority -- is willing to lay down their lives and their livelihoods for Trump.

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[–] lemmie689@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 week ago
[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trade Wars Are Good And Easy To Win

~ Sun Tzu, War of the Art of the Deal

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 15 points 1 week ago

They're not good, but they are easy to win...if you have all the manufacturing facilities and are okay with plunging your country into depression for the sake of absolutely no benefit whatsoever.

Wait, what's the definition of "win" again?

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

So now we see whether Trump gives in or makes up bigger and bigger numbers. "900%! 1,776%! A BILLION PERCENT!"

[–] wjrii@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you raise the tariffs to a billion percent then the US will get a billion dollars revenue for every $100 TV that comes from China! There will be so many millions of billions!!!!!! Why wasn't anyone smart enough to do this before?!?!?

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago

Kinda like the trillions we'll make from golden visas 🙄

[–] match@pawb.social 18 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Trump is an unserious president

[–] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

He's just getting extra silly with it.

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[–] Bbbbbbbbbbb@lemmy.world 16 points 1 week ago

I hope Trump holds long enough for the release of the next iphone

[–] notsure@fedia.io 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

....please read project 2025, this has all been pre-planned and ready to be executed...

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago (2 children)

AFAIKk project 2025 ~~calls~~ doesn't call for tariffs; that's a Trump original.

Edit: brainfarted.

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[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 10 points 1 week ago

I can only picture Xi Jinping swimming through a pile of rare earth minerals like Scrooge McDuck, while a call from Trump rings, unanswered.

[–] notsure@fedia.io 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

within projecct 2025 is the alientation of all foreign trade due to "internal security"...should i quit now?

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Because ♾️% > 245%

[–] experiencetheworld@feddit.org 5 points 1 week ago

China manufactures most of the products from US companies. As we also see now, Chinese companies promote the idea of buying from the manufacturer directly instead of the middle man like "Why buying the Nike shoes for 80$ if you can get them from us for 5$."

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