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[–] P1k1e@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Funny considering tobacco is a solid American good

[–] vivendi@programming.dev 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Oh yeah, even higher chance of cancer, what's not to love

[–] Poem_for_your_sprog@lemmy.world 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Don't be so sure about that one.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 0 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

More research needs to be done, but all the evidence points to vaping being vastly safer than smoking. Of course, your lungs are meant to inhale air and nothing else, so neither is still the best option

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Talk for yourself, but I, as a homo sapiens, evolved from a fish. So my Lungs are actually made to breathe water.

This comment was sent from atlantis.

[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Aw weather controlling atlantean jews. Always knew this was the inevitable conclusion.

[–] neons@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 month ago

I'll let you know that us weather-controlling atlanteans are actually direct descendants of the greek and as such worship Zeus and the greek pantheon.

Anyways, I have to go now, time to sacrifice a bull to Zeus. Ask him to accelerate climate change. Atlantian colonialism, turning the whole world into one huge sunken city, you know how it is.

[–] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I was recently in Europe. It's not even about health. Guys, stop it, you smell like shit.

[–] Rob1992@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ah yes Europe, the mythical country.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Europe is a geological region where most countries share a lot of cultural ties with each other, including the smoking culture.

[–] Tungsten5@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Bogus007@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

Likely, if she weights <70kg and her name is not Karen 😂😂

[–] Bogus007@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

At least it is organic and not biohazard like US🤣😂

[–] vvilld@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Second hand smoke isn't a biohazard? It literally causes cancer...

[–] Bogus007@lemm.ee -1 points 1 month ago

It increases the risk of getting cancer! Your sentence implies that you get it each time you are exposed. However, there is a subtle difference between being really attacked by a lion or being in the territory of a lion. In the first case you are highly likely done, in the second you have a chance to get out complete and healthy. And also: when and how are often two important questions.

Why I am saying this: I knew two guys in my family, who smoked from young like chimneys. They died old (>90) and not due to lung cancer! But perhaps in their times (50-90) the cigarettes were less toxic, who knows 🤷‍♂️

[–] OmegaLemmy@discuss.online 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Asshole, don't make me smell your shitty tobacco, Atleast vapes conceal the smell

[–] Rob1992@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They don't, you still stink but now of menthol or whatever other flavour you picked

[–] ZeldaFreak@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

Except that you aren't required to use a flavor. I don't use any flavor for many years and the only thing that could anyone others would be the cloud.

I don't vape for fun, I vape for my nicotine addiction. The flavors made the switch easier but after the switch, I phased out the flavor. Now I don't smell like an ashtray but you can see me from a distance and I visualize where my bad breath smell from my lunch and my germs are in the air.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

If you're trying to get lung cancer .... get lung cancer with style

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vaping isn't carcinogenic.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Vaping is less carcinogenic than smoking by a significant degree but it is carcinogenic

Acrolein, a carcinogen, forms in small amounts from the breakdown of glycerin during heating

If a “dry hit” occurs the effect is worsened, acrolein forms in higher amounts, and formaldehyde (another carcinogen) can occur from the breakdown of both glycerin and propylene glycol

Vaping still leads to inflammation and oxidative stress in the lungs and long term use will almost certainly lead to irreversible damage

Harm reduction is important. Vaping is likely better than smoking but it is not yet clear whether that is the case. It is likely the case based on short term anecdotal data from people who have switched but this does not mean that long term use won’t create more severe lung issues over a period of 20-30 years. We don’t know.

In the meantime for further harm reduction to reduce risk you can vape with low temperatures as this mitigates much of the carcinogen risk, you can use reusable devices and frequently change coils and ensure the coil is saturated, and you can use a liquid that is free of flavorings as these present much of the “unknown” variables.

Or you can work to quit. It is challenging. I smoked and vaped, I know it is tremendously hard. But frankly these companies don’t deserve your money. They’re all fucking scumbags

[–] PraiseTheSoup@lemm.ee -1 points 2 months ago

Well said. I smoked a pack a day for 17 years and finally quit a little over a year ago. Lots of people around me quit around the same time but just ended up exchanging the habit for something else like vaping, chewing, or the new fad: nicotine pouches. It made me feel even better to be entirely nicotine free.

For anyone curious, I used nicotine gum from Costco for the first 2 months to help. It tastes like shit and is not enjoyable at all, but I don't know if I could have done it without.