This is the kind of slogan Democrats need to run on! : Mirror

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

“When you post or talk about him, don’t assign his actions to him, assign them to ‘The Republican Administration,’ or ‘the Republicans,’” Bernice King (MLK's daughter) said.

“The Republican legislators will either have to take responsibility for their association with him or stand up for what some of them don’t like,” the King Center CEO added. “[Trump] will not get the focus or attention he craves. Republican representatives will become very concerned about their re-elections.”

Don't make this about Trump.

Think about the Nazis. When he's finally out of office, all the Republicans that propped him up and could have ended this at any time will pretend they were "just following orders," being intimidated into doing what Trump wanted, or fleeing to Argentina (probably Russia this time).

Every Republican elected official wearing a red hat needs to be held accountable.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I disagree. Its all about MAGA and HitlerPig.

We are going to need the Traditional GOP to side with the Dems if we are to crush and purge MAGA from the government and society.

In WWII, we knew what an absolute mass murdering monster Stalin was, but we needed his help to destroy Germany, and he needed us for the same thing. So we held our noses, and made a temporary unholy alliance to advance the only common interest we had. Afterwards, we immediately went back to being bitter enemies.

The Traditional GOP still exists, they're just dormant. Republicans are abject cowards at their core, and are afraid of everything, and right now they are most afraid of MAGA. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, and if the Dems showed some spine, and the willingness to commit to bold leadership and action, and the Trad GOP became more afraid of HitlerPig/ MAGA than working with Dems, we could form a temporary alliance with the Trad GOP to bring down MAGA, and then they could go back to being their normal level of shitheads.

[–] Absaroka@lemmy.world 6 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm sorry but at this point 'traditional Republicans' are indistinguishable from 'MAGA.'

You're giving them the exact out we're talking about.

"Oh that wasn't me. I was just a powerless SENATOR caught in the crossfire."

All Republicans are complicit at this point. Many democrats as well.

Now, if they don't want to be seen that way by history, they know what they have to do. And a few of them are starting to fight back.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

Your last paragraph is what Im encouraging to happen. There is a Traditional GOP, they just have to stay hidden because they feel isolated and scared. They know how evil MAGA is, they hear them saying the worst stuff behind closed doors that we dont hear (but still know their intentions). In addition, they have bought into their own propaganda that the Dems want to kill all of them. Right now, there isn't an environment where they feel safe enough to fight back.

If the Dems made it clear that they'd be willing to work with the Trad GOP, they might find them receptive, especially after these tariffs hit, and they start getting savaged by their REPUBLICAN constituents.

They have to keep the back channels open, and we might not even hear about it, until they start making their moves.

I intend to let my non-MAGA Republican senators know that I will suppprt them when they finally make their move. Plant the seed that there is support for a temporary alliance to crush MAGA.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We are going to need the Traditional GOP to side with the Dems if we are to crush and purge MAGA from the government and society.

Because Dems courting Republicans has historically worked out so well, right?

If Dems want to crush MAGA and hold Republicans accountable, then the Old Guard Dems need to retire. Schumer, Pelosi, et al. They need to graciously step down and hand the torch to the younger, more left-leaning members of their party, who will embrace a more Leftist platform since they won't have to kowtow to a powerful Liberal establishment. Once they can present their ideas to the voting public without fear of reprisal from their own party, they will absolutely dominate elections, because the vast majority of citizens support Leftist policies, even if they don't realize they are Leftist policies.

There is not a single example in history, in any country, where embracing the enablers of Fascism has worked out for anyone other than the Fascists.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Valid, especially getting rid of the cowardly old weenies Dems like Schumer. I will never forgive him for jumping on a Republican smear campaign and stabbing Al Franken in the back. I would vote for a Republican over Schumer...well, maybe not, but I still despise the guy.

As for the rest, we are in uncharted political territory, and we cant assume the old strategies and models will play out the same. Your assertion that collaborating with enablers of fascism doesn't work is contradicted by the success of our alliance with Stalin. He was easily as Fascist as Hitler, and yet he was an effective ally in WWII. It's unlikely that we could have won the war without the Soviets on our side.

The bottom line is that the more elements we have on our side, the more effective our uprising will be.

[–] Doctor_Satan@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Your assertion that collaborating with enablers of fascism doesn’t work is contradicted by the success of our alliance with Stalin.

The battlefield is a whole different animal. This kind of collaboration doesn't work in domestic politics.

The bottom line is that the more elements we have on our side, the more effective our uprising will be.

I am willing to accept defectors, but there needs to be genuine contrition. Not just a bunch of angry people opposing Trump because the fascist policies they eagerly supported and voted for ended up hurting them personally. Those people will never be our allies. They will backstab us the second the chaos subsides.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

We are being overrun in a Russian coup, domestic politics IS the battlefield right now, and that resemblance is going to grow when violence enters the mix.

And Stalin was never truly our ally either, it was just a partnership of convenience, and the minute Hitler was dead, we turned on each other. That's okay, at least Hitler was dead, and that was our ONLY shared objective. I'm willing to do that with the TRAD GOP, not anyone who was a true MAGA acolyte. They are actual traitors, and need to be purged out of government forever, and if their treason rises to a level of true action, and not just rhetoric, then they should be prosecuted and imprisoned.

[–] Fuzzy_Dunlop@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago

No, they need a platform that people will vote for. They need to earn our votes with something more than "Trump is worse".

[–] clonedhuman@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The Democrats could have won if they'd simply said 'we will institute universal healthcare.'

But they didn't say that because the politicians they selected were all funded by billionaires.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 12 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

They also could have started proper investigations and pushed to drive criminals out of politics. Instead they wanted to "heal" and embrace "bipartisanship", as that served the Red and Blue oligarchs best.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 5 points 2 weeks ago

This is the real answer. The mandate on the Biden administration was to throw those criminal traitors in prison. The day after his inauguration, Biden should have rounded them all uo and remanded them to Gitmo for extensive interrogation as to their involvement with Putin.

Instead, he appointed the weakest Republican in history to be AG, who dicked around and gave HitlerPig a two-year head start on running out the clock. Typical weak, spineless behavior from Democratic weenies.

Americans want to vote for leadership and strength, and a lot of them would rather have a severely corrupt strong person protecting them, than weak, simpering cowards like the current Democratic leadership

[–] Quill7513@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 weeks ago

Across the pacific in South Korea, what we should have done 4 years ago is currently happening

[–] YtA4QCam2A9j7EfTgHrH@infosec.pub 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Given that the dude did crimes, and Garland and Biden did fuck all with that for two fucking years, I don’t think this is a winning strategy because no one will believe that Dems will do anything to defend democracy(unless they actually start doing something substantial immediately). Especially now that the dude has immunity from our dear leaders on the SC.

[–] huppakee@lemm.ee 2 points 2 weeks ago

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

[–] Yankee_Self_Loader@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

MASA!

[–] tektite@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 weeks ago

Make America Safe Again: Helping Americans Resist Infiltrator's Nazi Agenda

[–] hausthatforrem@lemm.ee 1 points 2 weeks ago

Si, fry. 🚀

[–] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 weeks ago

Democrats need to start calling tariffs as "TRUMP TAX"

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