Thanks for the explanation, but that is absolutely crazy. Literally every word of it is fabricated by humans trying to figure out some way of justifying the control of others. Not one single concept is backed by any factual evidence. It's all just a fairy tale, or mythology. It's astonishing that anyone living in the modern world believes any of it actually true, and that they live their entire lives by it.

Even if you believe that this is all the work of "God," how can any human claim to know what God actually thinks or wants? The entire concept of religion was created by humans who claim to know what God wants from us, and anyone who says that is automatically a conman.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I can only say that once I started studying physics, QM seemed crazy too. I won't even go into the astrophysics patchwork that is the ∆CDM models, that's bonkers. Even the CMBR looks like it's assuming a lot of things to me, and lately it's been taking a beating with new findings.

There is bunch of things people say or do that are crazy or astonishing for you without context. Id suggest you to try not dismissing those things with a thought if you really want to understand them.

The claim of no factual evidence begs the question of what is factual evidence for the reader. Also self explanatory within the context of the book we are discussing.

As for the question of knowing what God thinks or wants, it's self explanatory, given that we are dealing in a discussion within the context of a book that, presumably, tries to explain that to readers.

Beyond the advice, you are obviously allowed to think anything about anyone.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 1 points 7 minutes ago

I'm a musician, and I can explain music in such fine detail that it would sound like a foreign language to a civilian, the same as your physics analogy. Just because the advanced version of a real world concept is beyond the understanding of most people doesn't mean it isn't true.

But religion has to stay simple enough that the average rube can understand it well enough to buy into it, and even then, the leaders demand that at some point, you should stop asking questions and just believe based on FAITH, based on what they TELL you, with no evidence at all.

And the book always becomes the backstop - "Because the Bible tells me so" becomes the fallback defense to everything else, as if that simply closes the discussion. The Bible is nothing but a book of confirmation bias justifications for whatever religious leaders demand from us, usually money. The original accounts were written by barely civilized humans without the same demands for evidence, logic, historical accuracy, etc. that we demand from modern authors, and then compiled, edited, and promoted by people with an agenda to control the population. The Bible is not evidence, and has no place being cited as a source for religious veracity. Making up a religion, and then writing a book to explain it, is not evidence, it's a con.

If religion can't be proven based on actual evidence, without bringing the Bible or Faith into the discussion, then it's nothing more than mythology, and mythology should not be a consideration when managing this country's, and the world's, current problems.