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[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 13 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Define "you." An identical collection and pattern of atoms and subatomic particles? Then yes. A continuous consciousness as experienced by the "me" on the entry side of the teleporter? No.

Would I kill myself to save five lives and create one? Yes

[–] raspberriesareyummy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

This here, although teleporters might actually be implemented in a way that transmits the original being to the destination. It's a fictional technology after all, so why not?

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah, I am assuming Star Trek transporters. If it's a wormhole then it's fine

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You're not a continuous consciousness anyway. Sleep is a thing.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I hate that comic. Equivocation is a fallacy. Your alarm clock is proof that you don't lose experiential consciousness when you sleep.

[–] Soggy@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

What comic and no it doesn't. And reading through your exchange with the other guy it's clear we have very different ideas about the nature of self-identity. I don't think of my body as necessary for "me" to exist, I am my thoughts and memory rather than my neurons and chemistry. If that information can be copied and transmitted then there will be a "me" that continues from a new location.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 weeks ago

There will be a you, but it's not the same you. If you read my exchange with the other guy, then what are your thoughts on the "shot in the head" topic? Would you be okay with this you being killed in a very real and visceral way, as long as a you would be reconstructed elsewhere?

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

There is no way to know that were not constantly dying and being replaced. The experience of continuity may be an illusion because you don't notice that you're only alive for a split second, and replacing the consciousness that was alive a split second before you.

[–] starman2112@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Okay? That's all well and good, but there is a way to know that a transporter does kill you. Given a choice between maybe living or definitely dying, I'm gonna choose the former.