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[–] Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm fucking dying laughing at this shitshow from another country.

YOU COULDN'T FUCKING WRITE THIS SHIT 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[–] GladiusB@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

They did. So we ignore the circus while they rob the treasury.

[–] IhaveCrabs111@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

They’re skimping on the bread and are heavy on the circus.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They already did that, though.

[–] dudinax@programming.dev 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Dude finality of payments is already gone; they already took the literal concept of money. Good riddance, but it's gone.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They could still actually rob Fort Knox and directly invest the U.S. treasury into a crypto pump and dump scheme.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Dude they already did the crypto thing.

Like twice.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I’m talking an actual transfer of federal funds and pretending it’s legit, like the proposed strategic crypto reserve/sovereign wealth fund.
The previous ones were personal grift, paid for by willing idiots.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honey, babe, sweetie, dear, aside from the blatantly corrupt assignment of federal contracts to themselves:

Look up what 'finality of payments' is. Cancelling that means... Think of it them having root access to every bank account based in the united states.

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

I don’t think we’re talking about the same kind of crime here.

I’m talking about theft, you’re talking about financial terrorism.

There’s no grift to be had in destroying the value of the currency you are attempting to steal unless you transform it into something else that has or retains value after your crime has been committed, such as gold, other currency, or stable crypto (the latter two of which are easily exchangeable for crypto before the dump happens).

I think even Trump might understand that if he steals all the dollars but that means all the dollars will no longer have value, that he will no longer have valuable dollars.

We’re not dealing with the Joker here. We’re dealing with a 80’s businessman who fried his brain with coke and laundered Russian money and is stuck in those glory days as he descends into dementia. Now he’s a puppet with his hand in too many cookie jars, and an hand or two in his own ‘cookie jar’ and all he wants is MORE.

[–] ManOMorphos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Not to mention, I'm pretty sure if they started debiting accounts arbitrarily and en masse, there would be a nationwide bank run and an apocalyptic economic crash. I'm not sure they'd want to wage nuclear war on the US economy. At least not yet.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

No, dude, its already done. Your bank account is their bank account.

Trump might not understand, but miller bannon etc do, and they're the ones actually acting here.

Why steal shit they already own?

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 18 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You could write that in a tv show and people would say it's funny but too far fetched. Look at american movies and tv shows. The preside t is a smart, grey haired dude who has everything under control. I wonder if there will ever be a movie with an obese president who can't read and shits his pants.

[–] EchoSnail@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It could be a 2 minute SNL skit. But you're not getting a whole show out of this.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There will probably be a show/shows that are based on this about 20-40 years after Trump and Trumpism dies.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I really hope we get through this, and all the people who supported trump are convicted of crimes against humanity or something. We can't just keep letting conservatism break out every couple decades like a herpes infection.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

The only way to permenantly stop conservatism is to abolish capitalism. When you have a system where people are allowed to hold power over other people, those powerful people will work to gain more power by any means necessary.

  1. Force all corporations to be worker owned coops, which will also have the effect of abolishing the stock market.

  2. Tax all wealth above $50m at a rate of 100%, creating a hard wealth cap of $50m.

  3. Provide all basic necessities to everyone free of charge paid for by tax dollars. Food, water, housing, sewage, trash, healthcare, etc. Anyone who wants to live in a situation beyond just the basic necessities can choose to work, but work should be a choice, especially with how advanced automation technologies are becoming.

There are also additional ideas like the ones in the solarpunk movement (library economy, focus on integration of nature with society, etc.) that are worth striving for.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Right. We could argue details but that's more or less acceptable to me.

But getting to somewhere like that from here is a real uphill battle.

I've posted it a bunch lately but it really does feel like people hate all the pieces of capitalism without realizing they're all connected.

[–] refurbishedrefurbisher@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've posted it a bunch lately but it really does feel like people hate all the pieces of capitalism without realizing they're all connected.

This is in large part due to Joe McCarthy, Ronald Reagan, and co. making the words "communist" and "socialist" socially unacceptable by kicking off the Red Scare in the 1950s. Can't critique capitalism in those days without being called a Commie and losing your job.

[–] EchoSnail@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

Well, there was that time a fat meth addict betrayed one of the billionaires/rivals that made him Fuhrer.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/part-one-alfred-hugenberg-the-elon-musk-of-weimar-germany/id1373812661?i=1000702671438