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Here's everything you need to know. CBS Sunday morning interviews a gun nut job. She states a demonstratively false statement about how many guns kill a people a year, and gets fucking zero push back. That's how we got to where we are. It's harder to get a driver's license than it is to get a gun.
EDIT: As we all know "knives and blunt objects" are obviously used to kill more people than assault rifles.
https://youtu.be/h5VRxqzitIU
Everyone acknowledges that the problem is mental health, everyone is convinced that solving guns is the answer.
You wanna know what I can make using styrofoam (or soap) and gasoline? Fucking napalm. You wanna know what will cause a lot more harm than a gunshot? Fucking napalm.
It must be the 90s again to see someone saying that styrofoam and gasoline makes napalm lol. That is not actual napalm. It could hurt people, but it's more like being lit on fire in modern plastic clothes than it is napalm.
Having easy access to guns is just objectively stupid.
Dude it's stuff that I can set on fire that will stick to you, and that's not including all of the other things that can hurt you like cars that are infinitely easier to access and operate. People like you would have us ban everything for no other reason than you're afraid.
Nice strawman. Regulation is not the same thing as banning. You shouldnt be able to buy guns so easily.
Regulation? Seriously?
I can have a drone equipped with a fiber optic cable and a jar of not napalm ready to use on some random nobody for about a thousand bucks. Up that price a little bit and I can not only increase the range — I can just fucking make thermite, use the drone to set a whole neighborhood on fire.
Should we regulate red iron oxide because I've put the spectre of drone warfare into your mind? Do you have any idea how dumb it is to be fixated on guns?
Just checking the thread... but holy fuck you are weirdly obsessed with drones and thermite. I responded to you elsewhere and I want to make it more clear. I have the education and skills required to design and build the things you are acting like you know about. Even though I have the credentials, I hate flexing them in this capacity.
You are sort of useless from a short reading of your comments. Bring something to the table before arguing about things you don't understand.
And you're advocating for a fascist government seizing individual firearms. Let me think, for a second, how much I give a shit about your opinions... nope, I don't.
Edit: ad hominem after ad hominem, looks like someone's a fascist afraid to get shot
Falacy falacy is why i include small insults. Leaning on a fallacy is what stupid people do when they don't have anything to stand on.
I'm not afraid and don't think they should be banned. I like going shooting in the woods for fun. Cars require registration and a license like guns should.
Easy access to guns is objectively stupid. Read what I say without implying things.
Napalm is not styrofoam mixed with gas, full stop.
Red iron oxide and aluminum flakes. Fiber optic drone for around 1-1.5k.
None of that is regulated and I can do far more damage with that than a gun. Give me enough time and I can do better because it's already being done in other countries like Ukraine.
You wanna regulate red iron oxide and drones now that I've put the spectre of thermite drones into your mind? Oh, sorry — you're too fixated on the not napalm to realize the point. My mistake.
Put the meth down.
Thermite is only dangerous in very specific situations. You aren't some scary bad ass because you think you know how to make bombs. Bigger and better explosives are made with other things that get you put on a list for buying to much of.
Guns need to be regulated is such a broad statement. Its meant to allow dumb people to interpret it however they want. Easy access to guns is objectively stupid.
What makes you think I'd be using thermite as a bomb?
Ok, Mr. "I know what I'm doing and you don't" - I'm not going to continue elaborating on how unregulated materials can easily be used in destructive ways. Apparently someone remotely causing a wildfire in a neighborhood just can't compare to a crowd getting shot.
Beyond anything I've said, one thing is clear - you're advocating for a fascist government continuing to seize individual firearms.
I dont want firearms to be removed, beyond restricting access. Including logical fallacies is how I single out people with weak ideologies. Weak beliefs always lean on logical fallacies when challenged.
Move the goalposts again if you wish. Individual harm caused by thermite is relatively limited, even in a war like setting. Lighting a forest on fire doesn't require thermite. Unless you're a fuckin idiot or in middle school
The current administration is too inept to effectively remove firearms. Fascism has always existed in the US, but its more obvious today than in 1940. We don't win by clinging to guns and pretending they will provide retribution.
I won't elaborate on the very basic knowledge I have of explosives because you seem to think knowing about thermite makes you threatening lol.
Moving the goalposts?
You're on a post about an AR-15 ban but I've somehow moved the goalposts? I'm not wasting my time on this anymore.
I haven't actually been threatening anyone. I'm explaining how very easy it is to kill people and the various things that are unregulated that can be used to do so. Why do you feel threatened?
Almost like you're a fascist that's afraid to get shot.
Wut?
Dude, read the article - this isn't regulation, it's a ban.
Holy shit I've been arguing with someone that claims to be able to build bombs but can't manage to determine the content of an article that's been paraphrased for them. If you're basing whether or not guns should be regulated using yourself as a baseline, then god damnit – you got me, I have to agree with you.
Banning some guns is part of regulation, unless you don't understand how regulation works.
My 'wut' is about you fundamentally misunderstanding how regulation works. I'm not allowed to drive a semi because I don't have a class A license. Just like I shouldn't own an AR-15 to control the local deer population.
Oh, I didn't realize there was a license you could apply for that would give you the right to use assault weapons!
Please, produce it for me so I can get started. I will wait.
Edit: 😂😂 I don't understand how bans work when you've conjured up a nonexistent license. Incredible. Wait wait wait, don't tell me - it's up to the govt you've deemed too inept to handle the licensing?
Keep talking past the point all you want, i guess. Doesn't make anything you say more correct.
And you're virtually indistinguishable from a fascist, so who cares what your point is?
Edit: also no, I did address your point. You seem to believe competent regulatory procedures will be developed by an incompetent govt, and fully support their seizure of firearms. Ding ding ding, fascism.
Fascism does sometimes include siezing of guns. But it's not a required component. The talking point about guns saving us from Fascism is a sales pitch from the 50s and 60s. Guns don't save anyone from Fascism. It does drive sales up though.
Every fascist dictatorship seizes guns. This is not a 'some do, some don't' situation. They all do.
I also find it very amusing how hard you've argued against guns, without ever acknowledging that education and mental health are the real problems that need solutions. You sure were quick to downplay everything else I said, but you didn't touch that one.
People like you are transparent. I'm done here, fuck you and the people that agree with you.
Gun people have sanitized history to support improved sales in the past. Its completely accepted these days that removing guns from a population under fascism is required.
Expanding the argument doesn't disagree with my point, easy access to guns is stupid. Never disagreed with mental health or education. Stupid people tend to imagine who they are arguing against, which is why you imagined i disagreed with you on those points.
Did you seriously just try to suggest that fascist governments seizing guns is sanitized history?
Debatelords are disgusting people. Refer back to my last comment.
I keep wondering when you will ask what i mean by easy access to guns. Dumb people always take several steps back into their beliefs before fighting back.
Yes. Fascists don't need to seize guns and have a complicated relationship with them. Nazi Germany is the easiest example. Gun ownership for true Germans and completely disallowed for 'the other'. It does vary though, which is part of the difficulty in defining fascism and identifying fascists.
I'd argue you are more of a debate lord. Telling me you won't respond, then making more false stupid statements.
Why would I ask that?
In order to purchase an AR-15 in Maryland you need to be 21 years of age and have an HQL. HQL requires firearms safety training and ends up taking about 30 days outside of that. After that, assuming I haven't missed anything, you need to go through another background check that takes about two weeks.
For a gun that needs to be broken apart to reload it.
You have claimed they should be banned. You do understand that every time you've called me dumb whilst these things have been simultaneously true counts as projection, right?
You do not understand what you're talking about, so I'll repeat myself with a little added bonus. Fuck fascists, fuck you, and fuck the people who agree with you.
Here's a little quote from Hitler, since you seem to love him so much. Let's see how you interpret words from the man himself.
Are you sure cars are easier to access? You need to be licensed to operate a car in public.
And it's generally illegal to operate a gun in public...
Well, it's strictly illegal to operate a gun in public — and if we're talking about places that don't have open carry, it takes considerably longer to get your concealed carry and a lot more training.
Not to mention, you can pretty much bet that everyone around you has access to a car in the U.S. . The memes might make you think that every single American has firearms but the reality is that they don't.
They're arguing with an imaginary person and reciting talking points. I'm not sure they understand that I like guns, but understand that we need to control access to them.
No you don't get it, since we cannot eliminate all dangerous things that could injure or kill people the only option we have is to not even attempt to control any dangerous things that are currently killing and injuring people. /s
Hah, thank you. Feel like I'm arguing with some who lacks the ability to understand nuanced argument. Its OK to be wrong or disagree on a topic without being 100% right or wrong is a lesson that seems to be disappearing these days.
Most handgun calibre rounds are, well, round, for the most part. Bullets get the pointy end as we move towards bigger calibres, right?
Not really.
There's lots of big ammo that is "round", such as .50AE,. 475 Nitro, 30-30 Win, etc.
Actually, I'd say most large calibers between .404 PM and .700 Nitro Express are on the round side of things.
And, there is plenty of "pointy" small caliber rounds, like 5.7 x 28mm,. 17 HMR, 4.6x30 H&K, and depending on your leniency for what is "pointy,", even 9mm parabellum (luger) might apply.