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[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 55 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Ameriscum here. Trump starts a war to create plausibility for holding on to executive power past current term limits. Which has happened in American history. Not the starting part as an ends to a means though. I'm scared.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 14 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

...When in American history did a president start a war in order to serve more than two terms?

45 men have served as President of the United States, two of them non-consecutively. The only one of them to serve more than two full terms was Franklin Delano Roosevelt from 1933 to 1945, being elected four times and dying in office. At the time, no term limits for President existed, and World War 2 was certainly not started by the United States.

[–] humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works 7 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Last sentence being: "not the starting the war part"

I was referring exactly to Roosevelt and didn't realize the term limit for presidents didn't exist then.

Again, I specifically said that about not starting a war but holding office indefinitely while a war was ongoing. Don't know how to quote on mobile but, again, last sentence of original post.

Sorry just bad at words. And history apparently.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 12 points 14 hours ago

Yeah...FDR won the elections of 1932, 1936, 1940, and 1944. The United States entered World War 2 on December 7, 1941 with Japan's near simultaneous declaration of war and attack on Pearl Harbor, with Germany following suit shortly thereafter.

We're talking about Franklin "New Deal" Roosevelt here, widely popular for his pro-labor stance and his "fireside chat" radio addresses. All four of his elections he carried a comfortable lead in the popular vote of 55 to 60% and won four landslides in the electoral college, in one case carrying all but two states. He really didn't need the war as a pretext for remaining in office for what would turn out to be the last 4 months of his life.

But, "America bad," right? So lying about history is okay.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

OP's probably thinking about Vietnam and Nixon. And Johnson.

[–] copymyjalopy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 16 hours ago

This one is the most probable of all the replies. Mostly because Trump has been following Putin's playback.

Albeit it might not be a full on conflict with a new nation but just a significant escalation i.e. Taiwan and China.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 3 points 15 hours ago

2003 called. It wants it's bingo space back.