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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 98 points 18 hours ago (5 children)

i'm gonna lean on the side of "fuck that shit" on this one. buying a tesla is a choice. maga are terrorizing people for things they didn't choose like skin color, gender, sexual orientation, etc, and that list will only get longer

fuck tesla, and fuck tesla buyers. unlike their holy godman idol musk, i value empathy. but not for people who pridefully show none of it themselves

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 81 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (5 children)

A lot of regular Tesla owners genuinely didn't know a ton about the company and until the last few years Musk wasn't quite so openly a Nazi.

I have zero sympathy for Cybertruck owners but I am going to wait to reserve judgement on average Tesla owners until I have proof it was bought recently and that they are okay with Musk as he is.

The reality is some people can't just up and trade in the car as easily as they might want to, even if they hate Musk and all he stands for now.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 38 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

People with ordinary Teslas might have bought them before Musk was a total ass. And apart from some dumb ideas like steering yokes and poor emergency releases and build quality they’re not that bad.

The Cybertruck is objectively bad and deserves ridicule regardless of what Lengthy Nutria does.

[–] THB@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

Musk was always a total ass. Agree maybe ppl were unaware until recently though

[–] cocolowlander@feddit.nl 20 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Model Y Juniper just started shipping this month. Its a glaring sign that says they bought it after everything Musk did.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 17 hours ago

I wasn't aware because I don't follow Tesla but that's really useful info because you're damn right.

[–] vinnymac@lemmy.world 13 points 16 hours ago

I have a Tesla (2017). Had no idea who this guy was at the time, I just liked the idea of an electric vehicle, and buying into a future without ICE. Cars been great, company not so much.

Musk can go to hell though that’s for sure

[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 9 points 18 hours ago

fair enough. i still say fuck'em. there are many more people much more deserving of my sympathy than fucking tesla owners

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 2 hours ago

I don't disagree with what you're saying, except that we should be doing everything possible to drive down their value. The less value they have the less Tesla is worth. Ideally people sell their Teslas used, driving the used cost down, making anyone looking to buy one still consider that instead of giving money to the company. We can have people who still support Tesla not giving money to them potentially.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 27 points 15 hours ago (4 children)

For many of us we've had our vehicles for a long time before Elon went dipshit crazy. For some it's because EVs were essentially dogshit before the Model 3 was introduced. Either short range grocery getters or expensive luxury. Even now most "electrified" vehicles everyone advertises are hybrids, not EVs.

I got my Model 3 near the end of 2018. Elon wasn't posting far right and Nazi shit at that time. He was sort of controversial, but that was about it.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 9 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

That's why I don't have ill will for people for having a non cybertruck Tesla unless you can tell it's new. But if you don't have an anti elon sticker I'm starting to side eye them

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago

But if you don’t have an anti elon sticker I’m starting to side eye them

I don't have a sticker, only because I don't like stickers or badging on my vehicles at all. My Model 3 was early enough that they didn't even have the Dual Motor badging for them in stock. They brought the badging to me at some point about a year later when the Rangers came to a tire rotation in my yard, there wasn't even have a full Service Center here yet. I didn't have them actually install the badging, it's still in my glovebox. It's as low key as I can make the damned thing.

But that's a major contributing factor to my looking at alternative options now instead of when it's fully paid off in September. The swastikar is becoming a target, and I don't want to have to deal with shit just because Elon's a Nazi. Got a test drive setup next week for a Polestar 3, and if I fits and I likes, going to be looking at that probably, especially with their added discounts and bonus for leasing and currently owning a Tesla. Most other manufacturer vehicles I'd consider are at least 1-2 years away still, so a 27 month lease is just about perfect for filling that gap, and making a decision then. Would still be less than I'm paying for my Model 3 with those discounts.

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

My rich oral surgeon friend bought a Tesla really early on way before Elon showed us who he really was. My friend has a sticker on his Tesla S that says “I bought this before we knew he was crazy”.

[–] Regrettable_incident@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Yeah, I'm sure a lot of people are in that unfortunate situation. I can't imagine the trade in value is improved. Sorry you're getting shit for buying a vehicle that was supposed to be less harmful to the environment, I guess the lesson is avoid musk products.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -3 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

Model 3 is still expensive luxury

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

You can get them under $20,000 at 2 years old.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

The model 3 was designed and marketed to be an affordable EV, and is still one of the cheaper options on the market.

Do you think any new vehicle is a luxury item?

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

Not like most of the luxury EV market at $80k+ starting.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world -4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

American, I see.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 6 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There's tesla buyers who dont even know who musk is or what he does/owns. I dont know who owns BMW, Ford, Volkswagen etc. People could easily decide to buy a tesla and not know.

And using hate to fight hate isn't always the best, these maga fucks will just use it as fuel for their regime, embarassing them is a much better way, stickers etc sure, but you shouldnt be physically violent to the person.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

There’s tesla buyers who dont even know who musk is or what he does/owns.

Citation??

Or, you just guessing based on the sentence that follows... 🤔

I'd bet significant money that 99.999% of rational car-buying adults know the relationship Musk/Tesla. 🤷‍♂️

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

The internet isn't real life.

How surprised were you at the last few US elections? Tells you everything you need to know about how uninformed the majority is.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago

Yeah. You know the saying "living under a rock"? The people in this thread have never even looked under the rock.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

"There's tesla buyers who dont even know who musk is or what he does"

I'm going to have to call bs on that.

[–] ch00f@lemmy.world 15 points 17 hours ago

Preordered 2016, bought in 2018 well before he was out of the Nazi closet.

Had service done in 2022, this is how my service advisor signed his fucking email.

collapsed inline media

It's embarassing.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

Seems unlikely when exposed to communities like this online, seems very likely when you talk to people who dont go online much.

[–] protist@mander.xyz 5 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The man is being covered on literally every news source, print, radio, television, and internet

[–] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago

Maybe in America.

[–] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

He is (or was) the richest man in the world. You'd have to be living under a rock to not know who he is

[–] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

I think the fact that GOPers get elected even by the people the GOPers are actively screwing shows that under-rock housing is very common.

[–] warm@kbin.earth 1 points 5 hours ago

You'd be surprised then. Bill Gates was the richest man and not everyone knew him either. Warren Buffett was too and even less knew him.

[–] DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com -1 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

What if I told you not everyone buying the car did so with daddy musk on the mind?

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't care. It's not like its a nececity for people to own a swasticar.

[–] DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com 5 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

Okay. Sell your car right now and buy another one. Prove its not a big deal.

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)
[–] DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 1 points 14 hours ago
[–] LinyosT@sopuli.xyz 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

It’s still supporting a complete wanker regardless of what you had in mind.

[–] DogEarBookmark@reddthat.com 3 points 10 hours ago

I dont think you realize how many wankers there are that go undetected because they know how to shut the hell up. Moreover, I dont think you realize how buying a car works and how little selling the car would alleviate the problem.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world -2 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

It's also an extreme luxury item - no one needs to buy one.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Tesla is a premium product at best, they absolutely aren't a luxury item. The S and X possibly, but most of the vehicles they sell aren't particularly expensive.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

It starts at 42,000 as base model - it absolutely is a luxury product.

[–] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 3 points 11 hours ago

42 thousand for a brand new vehicle, and you think that's a luxury item?

Bear in mind, the idea of an electric vehicle is you pay more up front, and less in running costs.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 1 points 57 minutes ago

First of all, $42,000 is very average for a basic family car nowadays.

Second of all, with incentives and tax credits, that's more like $30,000-$35,000 depending where you live.

Third of all, owning an EV is considerably cheaper than owning a dino-burner. No oil changes. No fluid changes. You charge at home for an order of magnitude cheaper than gas (unless you buy one of those GM cinderblock Hummers or F150s something equally ~~stupid~~ American). A $42,000 car with no scheduled maintenance, fuel costs, or mechanical repairs is surprisingly affordable compared to a dino-burner at the same sticker price.

Fourth of all, even at only two years old, you can pretty easily and regularly find Model 3s for sale at 50% or more depreciation from new. Add in the tax credit for used EVs and a 2 year old family sedan for $17,500 with no gas or oil changes to ever buy starts to become a pretty good deal.

Fifth of all, I cannot stress enough how completely unwilling most people are to completely reverse direction on a $xx,xxx financial commitment because it suddenly becomes a fad among internet nerds to get pissed off about it. If you people would step outside yourselves for five goddamn seconds and look at what you're doing, I would be so happy.

Elon blows goats. Fuck up his goat farm. Don't fuck over regular people just living their lives.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

You can get a two year old Model 3 under $20,000.

Which is a very reasonable price for a family car in 2025.