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[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 116 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (5 children)

LibreOffice

And perfectly working software that covers whatever else MS365 offers, e.g. Thunderbird

I'd love for more people to change to Linux, but these are all (also) Windows software.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 33 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Yeah office isn’t the what orgs care about losing with this change. Business premium was the lowest cost license option available to non-profits that allowed access to identity management using entra.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

That’s the real story here.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Identity and access management ensures that the right people, machines, and software components get access to the right resources at the right time. First, the person, machine, or software component proves they're who or what they claim to be. Then, the person, machine, or software component is allowed or denied access to or use of certain resources.

So that's what's that called. Is that also what tracks who access what and when?

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Yeah. Entra is basically the cloud version of Active Directory, it lets you use SAML to build single sign on systems that use your Microsoft account as the identity provider

[–] Undaunted@feddit.org 25 points 1 month ago

And if you need it in a browser, there is Collabora, which exists as a paid business version with support or a free non-support version, that can easily be deployed with Nextcloud. Another alternative would be CryptPad.

If you also need your mails in your browser, there are multiple providers like mailbox.org that offer mail encryption even through the online mail interface.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sometimes I find myself annoyed by Lemmy users. We love to tout foss alternatives, even when they don't work as well, or aren't nearly as polished.

Libre office is a different story, it has everything you'll need, it's really complete, it does everything you want and it can read any format you throw at it and save its output in any format you need. It launches faster than Microsoft office, it's more stable, I really have absolutely no complaints, everyone should be using it.

[–] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Libre doesn't support IDM, nor provide email, nor MFA, nor CAM, nor MDM, nor storage.

M365 Business Premium is a LOT more than Office Documents.

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah that's fair, I've seen how Office business integrates with the OS and a bunch of network services, so I'm not surprised by that. Well, for those corporate environments I expect MS will continue to be the norm. But for small businesses and home use, Libra is really fantastic.

And honestly, for personal use I could do without all that email and calendar integration, good riddance.

Edit: Also storage? MFA? MDM? Why would you want that in an office suite? like maybe MDM is useful, but it doesn't belong in the office suite. And the rest of the acronyms I didn't even recognize... So I'm guessing they also don't really belong.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

thy were talking about microsoft office. that provides neither of those

[–] skooma_king@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

But this article and post are about M365 Business Premium licenses

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Those factors help drive MS office adoption. It's a one stop shop. Many companies don't want to bother with their own servers, they'd rather just buy a service.

[–] catloaf@lemm.ee 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yeah it does. I'll be honest, I don't use spreadsheets much so I don't have personal experience with it, but yeah it does support that.

I was curious, so I followed up on this. Here's what a quick Google search turned up:

To open an XLSM file in LibreOffice Calc, you can generally open it directly. However, you might need to save it in a different format (like ODS) to ensure compatibility, especially if you're dealing with macros. LibreOffice Basic is not directly compatible with Excel VBA macros, so you may need to rewrite the macros to use LibreOffice Basic.

In other words, you may need to save your Excel documents as open document files, but after that their macros should work just as they did. Either way, macros are supported and in fact there are a few different scripting languages you can use.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (2 children)

GNOME Evolution is also a good outlook alternative and am pretty sure it was made as a open source alternative to outlook

[–] fluckx@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Has it gotten a makeover yet? Last time I used it ~3 years ago it still looked like it was built in the early 90s.

It was functional, not a complaint about that. The super old design just got on my nerves.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

Depends on the GTK theme ig?

[–] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I use evolution! It has some advantages over thunderbird but afaik it's *nix only.

[–] Mwa@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

yeah the only downside

[–] philpo@feddit.org -2 points 1 month ago

And if you need a more MS Office like feel: Use Softmaker.