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[–] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 217 points 1 day ago (7 children)
[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 125 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Don’t put the gun within reach of the printer, come on

[–] Quadhammer@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I keep it in a voice activated safe plugged into the 110

[–] titre@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm sure Canon has snuck in code that can replay your voice...

[–] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 2 points 1 day ago

Hey now, don't bring a gun into a Canon fight!

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 1 day ago

Recipe for disaster

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 51 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The more I hear from big tech companies the more I want to reject it. I don't even own a printer.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 33 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Go for older laser printers. They’re bulletproof, cheap on toner, free of DRM, and even if they only come with an LPT port you can always build your own print server that gives you all the bells and whistles like AirPrint.

[–] ooterness@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Bulletproof? Sounds dangerous. What do I do if it makes a weird noise?

[–] titre@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 1 day ago

Keep a cannon by the canon.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Can confirm. I’m a tech worker. No smart devices. Laser printer. Very close to going back to a flip phone.

I am looking at some smart locks, but they’re able to be used as dumb locks with PIN code and physical key also. And they have a usb power port on the outside you could plug a battery into.

I’ve gone down the smart home route a decade ago and only did non-cloud integrated devices with physical controls also. But it’s a part time hobby to maintain it.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

flip phone

Almost all such phones are actually smart phones in a flip phone Edgar Suit. Especially if it has maps or YouTube or any kind of an App Store. I see a crapton of flip phones that run Android, which has all sorts of Google spyware piggybacking along.

I think there may be only two or three dumb flip phones or feature flip phones left on the market, and IIRC two are locked to specific networks.

If you want a bona-fide dumb phone, you might be limited to something like the rotary un-smartphone.

[–] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Go check in Aliexpress: there are tons of non-smart phones, especially the stuff marked as "senior phone", and they're pretty cheap too (like $15 for a mobile phone that just does calls and SMS).

If you want the stuff that's not glitzy and heavy on marketing you need to get it from where the factories are, not were the brands are - basic mobile phone tech is a thoroughly solved problem and highly integrated nowadays and well within range for even smallish electronics manufacturers to design themselves.

Also check HMD, the Finnish mobile maker who bought Nokia's mobile business, who also have several non-smart models (including old Nokia models).

Edit: ~~No idea if any are flip-phones though.~~ Here's an example flip phone

[–] spookex@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

I had a Sharp SH-03L for a while, it's a business version of one of their flip phones that didn't even have a camera.

The OS was actually android 8.0 but really stripped down to basically only do the whatever apps a flip phone has.

I was able to sideload apks through ADB, but ironically, I actually wanted the google stuff to work since a lot of the apps required it to log in and other things.

The thing was pretty cheap though, paid like $15 for it

[–] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

usb power port on the outside you could plug a battery into.

Until someone with a flipper figures out that port transfers data too, lmao.

[–] locuester@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

Ha yeah. I would absolutely confirm there is no data connection

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Why would I get a laser printer? I don't want a printer.

Because it shoots lasers

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 14 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because they are like two fifty on the flea market and will run on one cartridge for 10 years. I print all my tickets everytime, I’m that old

[–] moakley@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

How else will I print out MapQuest directions?

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

literally so you can leave it unplugged in a box, and drag it out once a year to print a tax form or something. Toner should be shelf stable.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (2 children)

You guys have to print out tax forms?

[–] ericatty@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I have a 70+ year old friend that paper files. She doesn't trust the free file places available here (USA). I don't blame her.

Ysk - You can order the forms for free on the IRS (& state) websites.

I print things for her on my 1999 laser jet if she needs something printed.

Many years I paper filed just to inconvenience them slightly for not offering free file.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I am British, most people don't need to even think about taxes here as its all automatic. Only really something you might need to look at if you are self employed or its your job to deal with it.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago

Yeah but if its that easy the rich people can't have armies beneath them that game the system for them so they pay nothing. Do you see how this is better for society?

[–] bane_killgrind@slrpnk.net 2 points 1 day ago (4 children)

No, printed just to keep a hard copy

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[–] uis@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

build your own print server that gives you all the bells and whistles like AirPrint.

...why? CUPS is print server. You don't need anything else.

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 day ago

He's talking about the hardware and you're talking about the software.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 24 points 1 day ago (4 children)

About 3-4 years ago I took a bit of a dive into the firmware of IoT devices. The utter lack of security and the amount of information being hoovered up to the mothership made me swear to never build anything “smart” into the renovations of my current home. Sure, there will be automation. There will be CCTV. There will be solar with battery backup for essentials. There will be conveniences of all kinds. But virtually all will be air gapped, incapable of remote rooting, and under my full control.

Hell, even my laser printers are HP models over two decades old - an HP 4050DTN and an HP 5000DTN - that are totally devoid of any DRM or “smart features” and can trivially take generic overstuffed cartridges that can do 20,000 sheets at 5% coverage.

[–] AtariDump@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Remember, the “s” in IoT stands for “security”.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

And the 'p' for privacy.

[–] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 13 points 1 day ago

I worked for Cisco during the time IoT was being pushed into everything. You don't want to know how bad it is. If I was malicious I could have easily written several backdoors into their products without anyone knowing. I wrote kernel code in their IOS operating system. There are no checks on that shit and the entire switching team does next to zero peer review on kernel security.

Yes, there products that (at the time) touched upwards of 95% of all packets sent over the Internet.

[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The only upside to this state of things is that it keeps alive my fantasies of one day being a Watchdogs-style techno-sorcerer that can wirelessly hack anything that runs on electrons and a WiFi signal.

... Although the nightmare is that people far more evil can probably already do that.

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

ZigBee and Z-wave create their own network not connected to the internet, pair that with Home Assistant 🇪🇺 and done, sane smart home implementation.

[–] rekabis@lemmy.ca 1 points 53 minutes ago

Will have to look into that, thanks.

One of my key implementation requirements, however, will be resiliency, which means simplicity will be a core feature. The more “moving parts”, the easier it will be to break.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That printer is a 2000's HP LaserJet

[–] Milk_Sheikh@lemm.ee 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS

I will bulk purchase grey-market bootleg toner from shady overseas websites before I go back to a inkjet…

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you're lucky it might be cut with something cheaper like pure cocaine

[–] Gumbyyy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

It's fine, you only ever need to replace it like once a decade or so

[–] ericatty@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Is there a community for those of us with late 90s early 2000 HP laserjets? Somewhere we can discuss maintenance, feeding, and overall care?

[–] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 2 points 16 hours ago

There used to be but the moderators forgot to sign up for HP Smart® Instant Ink™ and used non-authorized ink (first party ink ordered directly from HPs website) so it got shut down 😔

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There’s one guy in my department who does all the smart home shit, but I absolutely don’t see the point in it. Didn’t even connect the washing machine to the wi-fi as you can’t set it going without having loaded it first anyway.

[–] captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I could see having lights on a somewhat sophisticated timer. Like having bedroom lighting that simulates dawn, fades on etc. Maybe making a thermostat a little bit more sophisticated. I'd like to live in a world where I could trust the power company to tell me when electricity is abundant and scarce but we're gonna have to win Civil War 2 before we get that. My toilet and faucets do not need any digital technology at all.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

I've got this set up in home assistant, with smart bulbs that don't access the internet at all. Its really nice, goes from an orange red in the morning to full white back to orange red. Eventually will get all of the bulbs in my house set up with it but for now I have it only in my room

Automation: https://github.com/basnijholt/adaptive-lighting Bulbs: https://kaufha.com/blf10/

[–] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 7 hours ago

I've got smart shutters that open and close automatically based on time, smart awnings which lower or raise based on the sun, to allow air flow when the shade isn't needed, smart lights that can be turned off all together with a button near my door when I leave, movement sensors in a few rooms that turn on the light but only at certain times of the day (essentially I don't want my corridor light to flash me when I go to the bathroom during the night), energy meters and smart plugs that allow me to optimize my electricity costs.

It's not for everyone but it's quite useful.

[–] TeamAssimilation@infosec.pub 0 points 21 hours ago

Tell me you’re a NRA fan without telling me you’re a NRA fan.