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[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 day ago (9 children)

I hope anyone who does these dusters realizes you can get whip it's on Amazon for like 20 bucks, then a cracker for a other 20, and then they won't be absolutely destroying themselves and their lungs. I also hate all the misinformation surrounding nitrous, fucking dentists use it for fucks sake, shits safe as long as you don't abuse it.

[–] GreenDust@lemmings.world 79 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I also hate all the misinformation surrounding fentanyl, fucking surgeons use it for fucks sake, shits safe as long as you don't abuse it.

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Had a minor surgery earlier this year. They gave me fentanyl as the drug to put me under. Was hella surprised about it. Also I see why people love that shit so much.

But also for fentanyl's danger, I think it comes down to how small a dose you need to hit the LD50/50 point is so low that you can hit it by accident without even trying. Street drugs are also being laced with Fentanyl and not in safe / well regulated doses. If you had a lab grade supplier, it'd probably be safer / easier to do safely.....but I don't think that's what people are doing...

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Are you sure the fentanyl wasn't supplemental to something else like propofol? It's not used for anesthesia induction before surgery AFAIK, just pain relief afterwards. If the IV burned a little when they pushed the plunger down on a syringe full of milky fluid, that was propofol.

But I can see an anesthesiologist saying something like, "We're going to put you under now. We'll give you fentanyl so you won't be in pain when you wake up."

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure.

I want to say they gave me two stages of anesthetic, but I also think fentanyl was the first of the two stages (counter to what you're saying should have happened). But also, I'm at best an amateur at chemistry; even less when it comes to medicine. That said, reasonably certain what they gave me was not milky nor did it burn going in (you'll have to excuse me if I misremember any deets, it was my first time going under and I was irrationally nervous about it)

I could have some things mixed up, but it did stand out in my mind that they used fentanyl (and I remember how fuckin' nice it felt when they threw it in my veins). But that's how I remember it.

[–] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't know what order they should have been given in. Maybe the fentanyl was first? Did your tongue just go numb and your vision go dark for a few seconds before you passed out or did it feel like an angel tossed you into a zero gravity hot tub and instantly jerked you off?

[–] DahGangalang@infosec.pub 3 points 17 hours ago

Lmao, love those descriptions.

It was more the second one (tho I think the dose was small enough to miss the full jerked off effect).

But it also wasn't a full "being put under" (they said they were aiming for a full under situation, but that they really just needed to "turn off" my sensitivity in some sensitive spots), and so I have at least a fuzzy memory of everything that happened along the way.

[–] idiomaddict@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

I was once given cocaine eye drops in a hospital though (it’s a combined vasoconstrictor and analgesic, which makes it good for facial injuries that tend to hurt and swell/bleed a lot). Just because something can have a clinical use case doesn’t make it safe for anyone to use it regularly.

[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Comparing nitrous oxide to fentanyl is actually fucking stupid.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 day ago (2 children)

True, fentanyl might kill you while nitrous will just put you in a wheelchair for the rest of your life. With poor fine motor so even gooning won't be the same.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 2 points 18 hours ago

If Steve O didn’t end up in a wheelchair from his nitrous use, then I think that might be a hyperbole…

[–] Starski@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

Only if you abuse it. Like I had said already.

you're right, one can be bought legally and used to even be available on amazon and the other gets you in jail

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

I also hate all the misinformation surrounding Ivermectin, horse vets use it for horses' sake, shits safe as long as you don't abuse it.

[–] deranger@sh.itjust.works 44 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don’t even bother with crackers, they suck. Just buy a 1L+ tank and some big balloons from Amazon.

Also, don’t do it every day, or even every other day. You will fuck up your vitamin B12 reserves and you’ll quickly discover what happens. Having a binge once a week is much better for you than a couple balloons every day.

I’d also point out ripping nitrous hits out of balloons is most definitely abuse. Ain’t nobody out there using a regulator and metering their nitrous intake like medical usage.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

You're metering it to one punch balloon every couple minutes! And when you wake up, you have another. It's self-regulating.

I would like to say I'm 10+ years out from the days I'd drive down to Bristol PA and pick up two or three 20 pound tanks from some random fire safety place. Definitely abusable, and easily so. We'd pound a 5h energy and Gatorade after and you're right as rain, which is not good, needs to be harder to feel fine after.

[–] Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Correct me if I’m wrong, doing whippets is text book abusing it

[–] Gold_E_Lox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

no. doing hundreds of them is.

[–] ryedaft@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only destroying their cerebellum. Who needs it?

Recreational use of nitrous oxide (N2O) has increased rapidly in recent years and is now the second most commonly used recreational drug among young people in the UK. There has been a corresponding rise in cases of nitrous oxide-induced subacute combined degeneration of the cord (N2O-SACD), a pattern of myeloneuropathy usually associated with severe vitamin B12 deficiency. This can cause serious and permanent disability in young people

[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago

They were abusing it, clearly.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 1 points 1 day ago

The only recreational use of N~2~O I know of is to add a tank of it in a car and pipe it into the fuel mixture.
And even that seems kinda snake-oily to me.

[–] WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

People doing duster are not usually the same people doing nitrous. In my years of working in a hospital, duster addicts were the worst of the drug addicts mentally and physically.

[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

finally made a lemmy account just to downvote you. don't fucking do whippets they can paralyze you for life. I've seen it. And dentists use it because they have years of training and proper equipment and they understand the risks (unlike you clearly).

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 2 points 18 hours ago

A once a year huff at your favorite music festival is fine but yeah, two of my friends started having trouble walking and while another friend and me realized our hearts were doing weird stuff and quite that stuff. Turns out it oxidizes the b12 in your blood stream. They started getting b12 injections but spending an afternoon huffing destroys all the b12 in an injection. Better to quit.

[–] ulterno@programming.dev 0 points 1 day ago

Happy cake day.I'm not late according to my timezone

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 day ago

Pretty sure what these people are doing is the definition of abuse though.

[–] Aljernon@lemmy.today 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Chronic use can really fuck people up though. Nitrous oxidizes b12 in the blood stream destroying it and that can lead to neurological issues.

[–] Starski@lemmy.zip 1 points 9 hours ago

Absolutely, this is why I specified not abusing it

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 3 points 1 day ago

shits safe as long as you don’t abuse it.

You literally just explained how to abuse it though...